We have been told by a few different sources, and some of have been information that agrees, that this Reality and Uni/Multi-verse (with all it's varying different but connected dimensions) is but one of many such Realities. 

   Some of these sources have also indicated that there is a Creator Being of this particular Reality, an individual, thinking, feelling, freewilled being. 

  Some sources indicate that this Creator Being is only one of many such. 

  But, what's interesting, is that one source (Edgar Cayce's guidance) that talks about all the above, indicates that the Creator Being of this Reality, was the first of the Children of The Source to remerge with same and become a full companion and co-creator.  Btw, Cayce's guidance at times hints and at times plainly says that the Disk that "Jesus" belongs too, is that Co-Creator Being of this Reality.

  This may mean (actually is likely) that this is the oldest or first of the manifested realities or creative art works out of the many. 

  I don't mean the physical earth, or even the physical in general, but rather this entire Uni/Mult-verse, both physical and nonphysical (a rather "large" place  )

   Interesting then that we find our own dramas and growth within same. 

  This could mean that some of us are some of the original sparks that The Source manifested out from itself, some of whom got lost, and then some of the first Retriever sparks that the Co-Creator Being used Itself as a model to create with the purpose and intent of finding those "accidents" in creation, the lost ones. 

   I wonder could this also mean that some of us, already have aspects of self that have moved into those raw states of Consciousness to become Co-Creator Beings themselves involved in the process of making, enjoying, and/or managing other Realities?

  Or, if we still exist in this larger Reality, does that mean we have not grown to completion to become "Gods" (i prefer Co-Creators) as of yet?

   Anyone ever get any information relating to any of the above?

   Suppose it doesn't matter too much, and not much to be gained to know one way or the other, but interesting to think about nonetheless. 

   I've heard that very occasionally, one of the other Co-Creators gets more directly involved with this particular Reality/Creation. 

  What an interesting and ever macro cosmic larger reality we live in! 

   I look forward to becoming an artist on this scale, a co-creator with The Source.  Tell you what, when we've all made our own little unique Universes, we should have a reunion party at some point, and invite each other over into each others little parcel of the Whole.  Maybe even some practical jokes... (but no real interfering with the creations evolving in same). 

1796 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2014 at 8:29am:


  I hear yah..   Also have some work to do before this Disk i'm part of can move into the next level of this process of Consciousness expansion. 

  But i really do very strongly intuit that both The Source and the Co-Creator being of this Reality, hope and wish that we will grow up fully so that we all can move into this role. 

   My strong feeling is that they long for us to be fully conscious companions with them, and look forward to when we will help expand the Whole in a similar, but in our own unique, manner  Course, they are very patient about all of this. 

   I think this is what all of this is geared too, all the different incarnations, all the different dimensions, all the retrieving, all the suffering.  To help us grow into and remember what we are truly and what Sources original intent and hopes for us were (to be fully conscious companions and co-creators with same). 

    We're kind of in a giant play pen until then...until we grow big enough to step over the boundary of same...      

  When Yeshua associated himself with "the Father" way back when, many of his fellow Jews called him blasphemous and said who are you to consider yourself on par with same. 

   He pointed out to them that in their own religious books by sources they highly respected that it was it written that we are "Gods" (implied is, in the making). 

   Who would know better than he, since it was his Disk, or rather original spark who evolved into same, that co-created ALL of this (and many of us).  And the first of these Co-Creators to arise and take on the mantle that The Source gave as a gift of potential for all of us.   

  Meanwhile, i need to go get grounded.    (consistent deep meditation plus colloidal gold plus more alkaline diet = woah body!) 

    



 

  Freewill being what it is, temporary imbalance and chaos is a potential in any Creation.  Without potential for "anti" origins, there is no true freewill. 

    Also, i think Bruce's account has some hints, but ones that need to be filled in a bit. 

  In Bruce's account, it was original Consciousness that started this all, what i would call The Source. 

    Some "lost" sparks happened. 

  Isn't it possible that some of these found their way into this reality after the Planning Intelligence (what i would call the Christ Spirit) co-created same?   

  Perhaps these sparks tend to cause a lot of trouble at times? 

   Does that mean it's the fault of the Planning Intelligence, especially if we consider that he was created at the same time or around the same time that they were too?  Nor does it mean it's a fault of The Source, but i think this explains that very odd saying in E.C.'s source about "accidents occasionally happen, even in creation." 

   I don't think this was planned or foreseen, which is why we could refer to it as an "accident".   Notice, it's not necessarily the same as calling it a mistake, for a mistake means error or wrongness implied. 

   Co-creating a Universe might in some ways be like having and birthing a child. 

   The initial process isn't necessarily all peaches and cream, but very fulfilling, and once the baby is born, you have to watch and help, but not interfere too much as so they can become their own person. 

  You "hope" they will grow up to be lovely and kind, BUT no matter what happens, you love them, and if they aren't, you try to help them to become that way without forcing them, but by constant example. 

   The above to me, so explains the meaning of Yeshua's life and why he came here.   Ever being the example for us, and ever calling us to follow in his footsteps. 

It's possible that some lost beings moved into PI's universe.

I figure beings go astray because in order for them to be able to create themselves in a free way rather than being like robots, they were initially created without having all of the knowledge that their source has.

If you want to have free will, you have to allow for the possibility that some Souls will mess it up for a while.

I agree.

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Interesting crossbow.  Don't eat steak or bacon myself, but occasionally eat some salmon. 

  Find it quite grounding compared to any other (non flesh) foods i eat. 

  I would imagine steak and bacon would be even more so.  When i did eat steak, bacon, etc, i use to have less energy.

1796 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2014 at 5:31pm:


Haha, wasn't trying to pressure you one way or the other on that one.  Was just stating my experience with the effects of grounding or ungrounding in relation to food. 

  When my wife and i did the Gateway Voyage program at The Monroe Institute, i felt nudged to make some temporary changes in my diet.  While there, i ate mostly vegan and live foods.  It seemed to make a difference.  I can't begin to describe how "light" i felt towards the end of that program.  Course, it was a combo of factors, the energy of the place, the energy melding of the group, the sheer amount and consistency of deeper meditation, etc, and yes i do believe the change in eating contributed too. 

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  Good questions, i'm not 100% sure one way or the other.  But here are some knowns, which if taken together as a whole, might suggest some things logically.

  One, we all have the same potential, all being part of The Source, the Light, and Oneness that we exist in. 

   Certainly our human forms and this dimension have a very limiting effect via what i call the affect of co resonation of collective consciousness.  Even if you're an unusually developed and mature consciousness, when incarnated here, you have to deal with that collective force and consciousness which is rather limited as a trend.

    But, those other (Co-Creator) beings we mentioned, seem to exist as personifications or pure channelers of PUL.  Hence, the more a Consciousness within a human form attunes to and opens up more fully and clearly to PUL, the more they can start to perceive that which is similar to them and their state of existence.

  Certainly, didn't Yeshua perceive information about these very large and beyond Earth concepts?  Even before the Resurrection. 

  Can we not do and become similar to him?  Did he not say we could, if we chose and live like him? 

    In a very real sense, because of the reality of Oneness/connectedness, all information and knowledge is within each individual, and it's a matter of attuning to it, and again, when it comes to the very expanded levels of Consciousness, becoming a clear channel of PUL is very, very important and crucial. 

  Whether this is likely for a human at this cycle and point to do, is another question and issue unto itself.  It would likely take a Consciousness who is nearing to it's completion and ready to become one of those Co-Creators itself, to probably truly understand and perceive much info about these processes and realities.

  How many of these are incarnated here now?  Don't know, but doubt the number is all that high.  Maybe in the low hundreds?   

   An outer source that i really respect, "Cosmic Journeys: my out of body experiences with Robert Monroe" written by  Rosiland McKnight, was given information by her guidance during one of these sessions that after the breakdown period, that the highly evolved, Christed Beings would make themselves known among humanity. 

  My intuition is that this includes both some humans and some E.T. groups.  And i think that eventually, Yeshua himself will go public again in the body image he was born with some 2000 years before.

  Nope, not aware of Bill Burr, but i think i get the gist.  I would also say that you are somewhat over masculinely-Yang polarized.  If i was part of your guidance, i might say a greater balance or attunement with the Feminine-Yin could be beneficial.  But there are certainly times and circumstances wherein Yang and Fire are very needed and helpful.  Our Teacher showed that on occasion.  He was not a passive, always super gentle personality in his expression with others.  He could and did get quite confrontational and in people's faces, and he oft challenged people.  And let's not get into Yoḥanan (John the Baptist), who was more consistently fiery in expression than the more gentle and balanced Teacher of teachers.

  Yes, gold is an interesting substance.  There was a study done wherein the participants who were given colloidal gold had their IQ scores increased by 20%.   Cayce's guidance talked some about gold and used it in healing, both in the more vibrational-electrical form and also in the more densely physical.  Particularly for cases of MS and alcoholism. 

    Once they said something about if the right kinds and amounts of gold and silver were taken into the human body, it would extend the life by twice as long (implied is if also otherwise healthy and with good attitude). 

   Gold is at a very fast rate of vibration, and is also a strong vibration, and works on the nervous system and resonates with the higher endocrine glandular centers. 

   First time i ingested some high quality colloidal gold, felt mildly high, but in a very clear way, for a bit.  Kelp and some other sea vegetables may be a good source of trace amounts of same. (Cayce's guidance i think said that wild turtle eggs were also a good source of same). 

  Yes, merging of the head and heart, of mind and love, is very important in this process.  More physically it's also connected to the Hemi-sync process of merging left and right brain sides and processes together. 

   I recently started re-reading "Cosmic Journey's" by Rosalind McKnight (one of Bob Monroe's earlier and long time explorer).  You can read it for free on scribd.com    It is one of the most expanded, balanced, and holistic books and works i've yet come across.  I was somewhat friends with the author, Rosie, before she passed, and she was definitely a rather "old (and wise) soul". 


   Speaking of this book, her main guide indicates that the physical level of Earth is not real, and has been temporarily manifested or reflected/refracted off consciousness because of a collective of stuck Souls--it's they who manifested same in getting stuck within. 

  I'm inclined to agree with her guidance, and so i should change my earlier statements about the Co-Creator Being co-creating the physical.   

  The dense physical apparently did not have it's origins in the Co-Creator, but i do think that He/It has been very involved with the manipulation of same on many levels, along with helpers who were never stuck to this degree and who have either helped from outside same or who also have incarnated here to retrieve. 

   I think some of these helpers have even been involved with the genetic modification of human physical bodies in order to increase the light capacity so to speak.   Some of this is done with the Co-Creators pre-knowledge and permission, while He is more indirectly involved with that aspect--He works more on the purely spiritual/inner consciousness aspect.

None of the immediate above is within that book, just my own intuition.  In light of "where" i was for a long time before i incarnated here and what i was doing when i was incarnated here last, it's interesting to note that from age 10 to 13 or so, i was quite obsessed with and had a very strong desire to become a geneticist.

   Anyway's, regarding Rosie's book, since one can read it for free, it's highly, highly recommended.  Talks quite a bit about the process and different levels of "out of body" stuff too.  Unfortunately, one cannot copy and past excerpts from scribd, or at least i don't know how to. 

But here is a link
http://www.scribd.com/doc/56644962/McKnight-Cosmic-Journeys-1999