Hi Freeman,

I understand your feelings about these books.  My own take is that almost every book contains a new insight or take on things that I might not have experienced or thought of.  For that reason, even if it may otherwise not be my cup of tea, I like to read the accounts.  Indeed, isn't that why we all participate on a forum like this? 

If we have to be open to the possibilities in order not to get tied up in belief systems, this could be a good way to expand our view (as long as we don't approach the text as something to worship from so that we are letting the author do the thinking for us). 


Matthew

Roger,

I agree with you, but see, I feel that from each book there may be some lessons to take away.  From Danison's book, her general cosmology was simpler than Swedenborg's and made a lot of sense.  She may have gotten the "nothing matters" wrong but it was her message - not for all of humanity perhaps.

From Tolle recently, I read one of the best descriptions of living in the moment/the Now, that made sense along with several simple spiritual exercises to be the watcher/observer to have more mindfulness of the soul.  I appreciate this, though I found his attack on the mind/thinking of humans to be disturbing.

I take from these authors what I can.  I challenge my beliefs if the authors present opposing views to my current view.  It is fun.


M

It seems that all outside sources that can be considered credible point to a few basic principles; Love, compassion, outreach, selflessness. If I spent the rest of my life focusing on those four things and never read another book or watched another TEDX video, would I be nearer or farther from spirit?

heisenberg69 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 4:55am:


Hi Fella. Thanks for that! I'm having trouble finding Rondele's post where she stated, accused me of  having "Black Energy" around my hands! Perhaps she is a Sorceress with mystic powers? You all read it, her post! Maybe she deleted that post of hers. Blessings and Love in Christ, you too Rondele. Carl      

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I did ask her/him in a previous post if she/him was male or female. Did you read it? Or do I have to dig it out to remind you! It seems ignoring those, like me, is the norm here, when questions are awkward...Sorry to infringe on your private afterlife clique here. Blessings and Love in Christ...You too Justin, as your heart is always in the right place   Carl

Carl, I don't remember anyone ever saying that, but why is it bothering you so much? If it's not true then why not let it go? I tried a search for it and it didn't come up, so why worry so much about it? And, it doesn't have anything to do with this topic, of course. (Your personal grievances with various members here could be approached with a pm, or maybe just let those go too. Sometimes I get over-involved emotionally with people on the forum--does it show?--and that's when I have to take a step back and realize that this is not a life or death matter, just one part of my life, and I can step back anytime.)

Earlier you posted another link which was related to the thread, and it caused me to go read something interesting elsewhere. I wanted to thank you for that, but someone else already did. So, maybe just make a decision to contribute in ways like that. It's nice when you do. Anyway, just my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.

Yes, sometimes it seems like people might be into their private worlds here, or go on and on and ignore other people, but so what? Each of us can step in where we might make a difference. It's just a big old river and we're jumping in and having a fun time swimming around in our inner tubes and being silly together while the river keeps rolling along.

  Yes, Carl, i misspelled Alan's name earlier.  I'm in a human and sometimes make mistakes. 


  Re: Bruce Moen.  I've met and hung out with Bruce twice.  While i do not see eye to eye with Bruce on everything (i've been vocal about this at times, and actually quite recently), my sense of him was that he was not a negative guru type by any means. 

  He lives modestly (Becky and i went to his place), and struck me as being a down to earth, a kind, gentle, and more loving person than not.  An "older soul" for sure.  Aura wise, emanated a lot of deeper blue, some blue purple and some even gold-gold yellow colors.  This speaks well of him spiritually speaking.

   I'm pretty good at reading people, especially in person.  Yes, Bruce does try to make some money from teaching certain skills, but it's fairly reasonable and especially compared to many, many folks in the New Age scene and business. 

    And, he's at least focusing on teaching skills, rather than belief systems, giving readings, etc, etc.  He's not trying to hook people and create a cult following wherein people have to depend on him and his teachings or services in any long term sense.  He's more like, "hey, these are the tools that have helped me to explore and find out for myself, now that you learned them, go off and explore yourself."

  Similar to what Bob Monroe's approach and philosophy was.

  In other words, it's a fairly constructive and helpful pattern, and i think expanded guidance is more or less happy with and grateful of his service here.  They do recognize he has some limited beliefs and perceptions, but so don't the huge majority of us.  The only one i know, who doesn't, is Yeshua.

    It's not always so black and white and extreme.  In my experience, it's actually somewhat rare for people to be out and out cons in a purposeful, conscious sense, or to be mostly negative, or even mostly or only positive.  Most of us are a curious admixture of light and dark.  Bruce is definitely more light than dark though.   

    You can ask the Teacher of teachers about it, if you don't trust me and my perceptions about him. 

No NDEr has remembered enough as to write 3 complete books. I think her NDE was real but most of what is written is added by her own way of thinking, not because she remembers all. Many of the things she writes seem logical but contradict what most NDErs experienced