not my art. but you can see how I was if you read through my profile. the only fear I have now is of the breathlessness and of my heart spasmsing and stopping. it make my hwole body feel swqueezed and awful and breathless. the only other thing is I hear of being shot out into the sky at lightning speed itno space. that also scares the crap out of me in my overtired condition.

edit. even if I was well, maybe I would have ben too scared ot do it anyway for fear of getting lost o rnot acutlalyl being able ot feel someone or to not find my way to safety. so ironic now.

Dang, I'd be scared shit-less thinking about being shot out into infinity too. Who wouldn't?  Maybe it would feel exhilarating or fun actually doing it... but I couldn't know until it happened. Thinking about things is often more scary then the thing itself. One thing is Absolute for sure. You won't be alone. You won't be lost. There might be a second or two of "huh??"  But that passes. And then you see you're not lost.  Just in a new place. With good friends at your side.                                    Your friend, Tim

here is what I pick up...no help needed. You will be, and are, just fine. I feel you being as healthy as a horse, physically, once things move forward from here. Take care "little one". When it truly your time, you wont be afraid. Your heart will be filled with love, and you will know it!

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juliajulia wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 9:43am:

im amaze dim still her ebut I am in a lot more pain an ddiables than I could think. and still nothing for all mtrying. its like I never existed before I was born, its like my dead loved ones don't exist and heavne don't exist. even when my mother is trying ot give me love and kisses I thank her but can tpay attention because my heart and tired
ness and everything is just so overwhelmed its like beign electrocuted. I can also se it was useless and asking fo rhelp only caused a mess. I m sorry for wastin gyour time.

edit now all those questions I thought, why me, why now, why this/ I was so healthy or seemed. its still ver ymuch a bombshell. now I am more depressed and afraid than ever considering tha ti almost died several times and ewach time was painful and lojuliajulia wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 9:43am:

im amaze dim still her ebut I am in a lot more pain an ddiables than I could think. and still nothing for all mtrying. its like I never existed before I was born, its like my dead loved ones don't exist and heavne don't exist. even when my mother is trying ot give me love and kisses I thank her but can tpay attention because my heart and tired
ness and everything is just so overwhelmed its like beign electrocuted. I can also se it was useless and asking fo rhelp only caused a mess. I m sorry for wastin gyour time.

edit now all those questions I thought, why me, why now, why this/ I was so healthy or seemed. its still ver ymuch a bombshell. now I am more depressed and afraid than ever considering tha ti almost died a few times and each one was painful and lonely an dhorrilbe. I cant bear leaving my mom or this earth.

Julia,

Sorry to hear about your trouble, and sorry your thread was diverted into a pointless, off topic, rant by a problem child who visits here.  I've gotten rid of that diversion so maybe we can get back to communicating about your topic again :d)

Going out of the body can feel a number of different ways and the most natural way is when we go to sleep.  Every time we fall asleep we just naturally slip out of the space our physical bodies are in and into a different body, a nonphysical one.  We all have both kinds of bodies.  Waking up is just the normal natural process of slipping back into that physical reality space  our physical bodies are in and becoming conscious, here in physical reality.  When we are asleep here in physical reality we are awake and conscious in a different reality.

Sometimes those other realities are fantasies, places we create by actively pretending they exist.  Sometimes those other realities are real, meaning the exist without imagining them.  Memories of our dreams can be remembering what we did in those realities.

Sometimes going out of body is just a feeling of floating as we let ourselves relax.  Sometimes as we are just starting to move out of our bodies there is a loud sound some describe as a "buzzing" or a "roaring wind" sound.  Sometimes there is a feeling  some describe as a vibration or shaking,  In my case the roaring sound was like sticking my head in a jet engine, and the loud buzzing, roaring sound felt a little like I was being electrocuted.  These feelings didn't last very long and my first response to them was feeling strong fear and feelings like I was dying.  At first I responded by pulling away from those terrifying experiences.

But over time I became curious about what these experiences were.  I allowed myself to just experience the feeling of them a little longer each time.  As I discovered that no harm came to me by doing this my fear dropped away.  This was a big step for me.  Without all the fear the experience changed in ways that made me happy I had chosen this path.

I know no amount of my words can convince anyone that our afterlife exists.  Only our own experience can or should do this in my opinion.  Besides, it's possible what you are experiencing has nothing to do with your dying.  You may not be dying at all.  It may be that your experiences are about learning something else altogether but it feels like dying and causes fear. 

I've been one breath away from death several times.  I have no fear of death anymore.  Now my only concern is for those I will (temporarily) leave behind.  We all have friends and Helpers who live in the reality beyond the physical one.  That's my opinion.  Sometimes we remember our encounters with them, usually we call those memories dreams.

Hope you are doing better.

Looking forward to hearing from you again,

Bruce