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A hell in the Belief System Territories
Jun 16th, 2013 at 3:31pm
 
Several weeks ago, while reading a book in the evening, I found myself suddenly getting a mind's eye image of a large, round opening in a dark gray, flat area. It wasn't a normal appearing landscape; looked more like a slab of smooth rubber extended as far as the eye could see. The only information that came to me was that it was a type of hell where many have ended up after dying.

I moved down to the edge of the hole and started picking up on voices crying out from the darkness below. A faint light coming from somewhere enabled me to see hands suddenly reaching up, voices begging for assistance to be pulled out. I got down on hands and knees and reached down to started pulling, calling out to them that everything would be all right. For some reason unseen Helpers (I could feel in their message there were several of them) mentally told me to act as if I were in a physical Earth environment, meaning no super human strength displayed, or magical things appearing/disappearing...for fear of actually causing panic for those trapped. So as a pair of hands grabbed my right arm I struggled as I normally would have, to slowly but eventually bring up an elderly man. As soon as he could stand up he took off running.

I was at that point where I was fading in and out of the scene due to sleepiness, so I backed my focus of attention up and out of the scene, hoping more would be able to get out of that hole.

A few nights later, the same happened again while reading, so I was at the edge of the hole instantly, pulling up a few more people. I noticed a rickety old lodge pole and rope ladder, positioned on the inside of the pit that someone was using to escape. I had the feeling there was an active rescue mission going on now...much busier than my first visit.

Four days ago I got the feeling/signal to help in a retrieval and once I met up with Helpers we ended up back at the hole again. I was a little surprised and curious as to why, but quickly dismissed it as the scene was alive with people young and old climbing ladders and streaming out of the infamous hole. It was organized chaos.

I got the message that I was to descend one of the ladders to help someone down below, and I was reminded again to not do anything to cause panic. So I began climbing down, one careful rung after the other (I'm not a fan of wooden ladders Shocked), and within a minute I was in a circular dungeon-like area, about fifteen feet below the surface. It was dark but I could make out several people huddled together near an opening or doorway, and I could see an expansive, grayish area beyond. I looked around, reassuring everyone we were there to help them leave, feeling their terror in the small space the way humidity builds up before a storm.

A thin and frail elderly man was crouching on the floor and when I suddenly realized I could see him better because the light from above was getting brighter, everyone immediately ducked and darted through the doorway. I watched as some sort of light source slowly passed over the opening above, casting an almost blinding white light everywhere, and for whatever reason the people hid from it. There was an artifical feel to the light, mechanical, without a warmth or presence behind it. It was gone as quickly as it had arrived and people wasted no time in returning to where I was, wanting badly to leave now that it was safe.

I focused in on three women holding each other in the dark and I suddenly felt overwhelmed with wanting to know how or why this could happen in the first place. How could anyone end up in this hole, or several other dark places I had been to where so many lurked and suffered in the shadows. Within a blink of an eye I was then standing very close to the women and I could make out they were wearing burkas, the traditional black robes/head coverings used by some Muslim women. And then I got an answer from a Helper, which in essence was, "The Pit of Hell. They believed, upon death, that they were deserving of and going to The Pit of Hell". It kind of hit me hard. And then, as I reached a hand out to them to motion we'd proceed up the ladder, I found myself saying, "Your families await you in Heaven". That seemed to get their attention. So I repeated the phrase and one of the women stepped forward. She was possibly in her teens or a little older and she had an unmistakably defiant look in her eyes. She gathered up her robes and started climbing. The second woman followed, not wishing to look me in the eye, and the third was quite elderly and near tears out of fear she couldn't climb the ladder. So I bundled her up in the crook of my right arm and carried her up to the surface.

When I returned to the bottom the old man I had encountered earlier was begging me to take him. He was very thin and frail, wearing an old shirt and pants that had been through a lifetime of hard work. As we were preparing to figure out how I was to carry him, that odd light from above came into the area again... with the same slow, steady movement as before, as if it were attached to a track and timed as to when it was to pass over. The man cringed and hid his face and I could sense others running into shadows. I could feel there was nothing to fear from it, but the residents believed otherwise and it was a scary part of the reality there. I told him, "Your family awaits you in Heaven", and he was able to regain his composure (I don't know why I repeated that phrase with the same wording and almost deadpan delivery, but I knew i was suppose to, so I was following orders). As the pit fell back into a lackluster grayness I climbed up the ladder with the man and watched a Helper take him away.

I then understood it was time to go and I moved up above the pit and floated for a time over the place, watching the track lighting go by again, people scattering like rats to hide in darkness only to carefully return to their waiting. In looking off in the distance I could see more pits, an endless number of them as far as I could tell, and I understood that they were connected by a vast, underground room or space, each circular pit with an opening in the bottom to allow people to come and go...to hide from the light maybe.


Well thanks for reading and much love,


Ginny
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Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2013 at 11:07am
 
Ginny,
Wow! Powerful vision and retrieval. There must be numberless souls still cowering in those pits. Did you get any sense of why you, and why now?
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Reply #2 - Jun 19th, 2013 at 8:02pm
 
Hi Bardo,

I get imagary or 'knowing feelings' many times while reading, so maybe why me was because they kept nagging and I finally got it Smiley? And why now...have no idea. I don't believe the human race is headed for annilation or extinction--just the opposite actually.

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Reply #3 - Jun 21st, 2013 at 5:41pm
 
Hi, Ginny,

Congratulations on the multiple retrievals.  I also see a ladder is some of the rifts I have been shown.  I too came to the conclusion that the souls in the pits are trying to get out.  I usually find the soul huddled in a dark corner or against a wall.  I don't know why they don't climb the ladders or if they even see them.  I usually give PUL to help calm their fears.  After talking to them and asking a few questions, I usually take them direct to 'the park' and turn them over to other helpers or loved ones.  I have done three so far with different kinds of ladders.  The first was a sturdy wooden ladder built by a carpenter.  It was so long that even I hesitated going down it, much less trying to climb it.  I 'kind of' slid down it and then after talking with the soul took him direct to 'the park'. 

I am curious about the white light that passes over.  I have not seen that but will look for it.   Have you come to any conclusions about it?

Thanks for posting these retrievals.  Keep up the great work.
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Reply #4 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 4:16pm
 
T'ressa,

Good question and I have no idea what the light was all about, or why it caused such distress. Would the people under the surface ever be able to escape if that light wasn't a part of the environment there? The idea that it was providing a window of opportunity for escape, each time it moved away, went through my mind after I left, but beyond that...strange.

Can you post about the places you've visited where ladders were involved? If it had been up to me I'd have not bothered with a ladder on this recent retrieval--just gliding down and back out works--but it came through that it was important I follow Helper's direction.

Gin Smiley

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Reply #5 - Jun 26th, 2013 at 1:50am
 
Hi, Gin,

I've been on three ladder retrievals.  There is always a place down under, but smaller than you describe and there is only one soul not many.  Two of them were dark pits and one was fairly light almost bright.  The souls don't climb the ladders for some reason.  I don't understand it.  I usually have no trouble getting them out.  I do use a lot of PUL. 

You described your pit very well.  I can easily see it in my mind.  I personally haven't seen it on the belief system levels, but if I do, I'll be able to recognize it.  Smiley

Thanks for your insight.
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Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:45am
 
That was wonderful and fascinating to read. Thank you so much for sharing. I haven't been here in a long time and it's time for me to start posting again. Glad to see that you're still here and doing well.
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Reply #7 - Aug 8th, 2013 at 5:36pm
 
Supermodel Smiley!

So good to know you're still around too. I would love to read what you've been up to with retrieving and afterlife exploration.

Much love,

Ginny
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Reply #8 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:01pm
 
Ginny/Baroness: amazing how much religion and its rules causes souls to cast themselves into hells.  I have no conscious memories of places like this, but it did remind me of the Iraqi women I encountered during that first war (2003?) who looked miserable and said they couldn't go to heaven as they'd been "escorts" for higher-ups in the Baath party.  As I was pondering how to deal with that, a voice from the back of the group shouted "But we were forced into it!".  So then I said "There's a special place for you, it's half-way to heaven and you will be accepted there" and somehow that seemed to convince them and off we went.
And that light....well, there are several accounts in teh books dealing with negative spirits (some might call demons) who obsess folk.  Researchers have repeatedly found that they are afraid of the light, having been instructed by the head demons who trained them that the light will burn them up and it's to be avoided at all costs.
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Reply #9 - Apr 2nd, 2015 at 4:51pm
 
Visiting this page and reading your accounts, Ginny, always opens my heart to sending and receiving Love.  And to read the responses of others with similar experience is a  treat.

I too am pretty disgusted that religions create these awful places and then send their own believers become victims of the beliefs they teach.  Just disgusting.

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Reply #10 - Apr 14th, 2015 at 8:36am
 
Good to see you onboard the forum Gordon Smiley

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