While i don't think NDE accounts are completely free from skewing, whether in perceiving or in translating other consciousness perceptions to human terms, something about NDE's seem to ring more true to me than say the info from the average channeler, OBE'r, or the like.  When reading many, i often feel these accounts are more accurate than some other sources of info.   It's just an intuitive feeling which i can't really describe. 

  It seems to me that many NDE's that i've read contain some information related to future probabilities of Earth and/or major societal/civilization changes.  None of them ever talk about the "end of the world" though, but an important transition time wherein much of how we live get's changed forcibly from either internal breakdown/degradation (caused by collectively limiting ways of living, like mass greed, materialism, general selfishness) and/or from outside catalysts like major and intense geological, climatic, and/or Solar events. 

   My question is to you folks, why do you think that it's somewhat common for NDE's to contain such prophetic, dramatic change oriented information?  In many NDE's, people describe being surrounded by intensely bright and mature "Light Beings" who are often relating this and other information.   Are these Light beings trying to "scare" people or prepare people?   Or is it somehow to be taken more symbolically rather than literally? 

  I'm not going to debate one way or another, i'm just interested in other's feelings and thoughts about this.

Channel, the way we live is and always has been forceably changed during the course of history as humans. Our ability to change and adapt is, not only greater than we think it is, but completely necessary, for our survival. When you speak of people of the Earth as if they were one single group of beings, that is correct in one sense, as I see it, but there are so many smaller groups and ecosystems existing on this big blue ball we live on.

Even if some people in one area live through some massive changes during their lives, others can placidly plod along living the same kinds of lives as their ancestors for generation after generation. That is the beauty of it.

Of course this planet may have problems here or there in the future, assuredly it will, as it has always done. But, even so, there are people all over the world surviving extreme weather conditions and harsh daily lives as a matter of course. For them, it's just another day.

So, I really don't know what all the mixed messages are about how "we" as humanity must change. I believe in individuals who, one by one, move through their lives learning and creating as best they can. Absolutely, our lives on this planet are becoming intermingled in new ways, and our information sources are changing, and we are in the process of massive changes, evolution and adaptation. And that has always been so.

Hmmm, I never thought of NDEs as being more accurate than other accounts, often quite to the contrary with rare exceptions.

Bardo wrote on Jan 16^th, 2013 at 12:08pm:


Well put.

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Good points about the general nature of change, humanity, and individuals.  I would just add an analogy.  If you took say the last 50, 000 years, plus 500 years into the future, and you could put all the major changes, transformative events and processes on a graph in the form of a sine wave, i would say that our time and cycle and in the near future would be one of the highest "peaks" of that entire graph.

O wrote on Jan 16^th, 2013 at 9:59am:


  Compared to certain explorers or channels, no, a lot of NDE's don't feel as accurate, deep or clear, but i was speaking in a very broad sense.  I've been actively part of the New Age scene for about 19 years and in that time i've looked into a lot of different psychcially sourced info, from channelers, psychics, mystics, gurus, explorers, etc. 

  I can count on my hands the ones that have felt and seemed very balanced, spiritually helpful, accurate, sincere, etc.   Most of that space is made up of folks connected to TMI like Bob Monroe (well his latter stuff), Rosiland McKnight, Bruce Moen, Tom Campbell, etc.  There are some others like Cayce, Steiner (sort of, some of his stuff is very confusing), Swedenborg, etc.  Some of the older ones though, lack certain information i believe because their times and peoples weren't ready for the more full and accurate explanations.

   Anyways, this is out of hundreds of different sources i've looked at and tuned into over the years.  Some of the most popular ones ring fairly falsely to me, like it was either being made up for materialistic reasons or just self delusion, or sometimes it feels deliberately unhelpful and misleading. 

    Yet, a fairly high percentage of NDE accounts ring fairly true and helpful to me.  But, most of these i would not compare to the really good, but rare explorers or intuitives that i have a lot of respect for. 

  I guess what i'm really saying is that the average NDE that i've read, has tended to rung more true than the average New Age or related type source like myriad channelers, psychics, gurus, etc. that i've come across.  But i've had the sense that some of the good explorers, like McKnight, Moen, Campbell, etc are part of pretty mature and expanded "Disks", and so yes, their information is going to tend to be more helpful, clear, and accurate because perception generally follows consciousness growth and general attunement (even including body health and vitality).

(there are exceptions.  There are cases wherein a very expanded Light Being or Beings, will infuse another, like someone temporarily dying, with their "vibratory field" and so really help to temporarily raise and expand that person's consciousness so they can perceive something much more clearly than they would normally.  This seems to happen in some NDE accounts, but also occasionally happens in accounts of explorers.  An example, Bruce Moen getting adjusted by the Planning Intelligence so he could better perceive and understand the communication). 

  I hope that clarifies my earlier, incomplete description and assessment.

Here's another video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8j38-oPuB0