BobMoenroe:

I think you went a bit far to suggest that I sent you the PM you mentioned below.  Somebody might take it seriously.

Perhaps Mogenblue is right about you.

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Just make certain that you use your time wisely. You have a lot of potential.

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Robert Monroe had close associates ( and a daughter ) who were involved with eastern religions but I know he also appreciated christianity.                                                                                                                 He was once asked "What is your view on cosmology?"                                                           Mr. Monroe turned to an associate, asking him to speak for him.      The fellow then gave a presentation on "the Course in Miracles".                                                                                                                                                I think that demonstrates that Robert Monroe admired christian practice too.

Not every post is about you Recoverer. I was just making the point that Robert Monroe had appreciation for christian practice and thought, as evidenced by his endorsement of "the Course in Miracles".                                                                              The post was about what Robert Monroe thought, not you.                                                               I don't know why you feel the need to respond like that.                                      The fellow who gave the presentation was Jose Gastanega. It was in '77 or '78, in Richmond VA. It was at a 10 day Gateway workshop that I attended.                                                                                             I can understand why you wouldn't like the Course. It conflicts with a belief in "demons". It's more about a shift in perception.... letting go of fear and limitation.                                                                             But it's not my intention to derail this thread. I'm just reporting what I heard when Robert Monroe was asked a question about cosmology.

If anyone believes Jesus was the author of ACIM, then they also have to believe he wasn't the Jesus of the Bible.

Because what the biblical Jesus taught and what the ACIM Jesus taught are totally contradictory.

I used to accept ACIM.  No longer.  Yes, a lot of what's in it seems sensible and profound.  Just enough to lure people in.

For people who want to believe there are no consequences for their actions and that there is no such thing as sin because sinful acts are really just an illusion that never actually happened, ACIM is the book for them.

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Hey NMM,
When I went through the process of gradually leaving Christianity, (from about 2005-2011 or so, in really complete terms) I had to engage in a lot of research and a lot of thinking, in order to make sense of things, and get to a point where I no longer had any resentment or pain where Christians were concerned.  For the most part, I think I've resolved the issues I had now.

Christianity is a religion which has a very large amount of truth in it; as much as any other religion.  The problem is that almost all of said truth is distorted in some way.  Often the context has been changed, or the preoccupation is on the idea of a God who is going to send people to Hell for eternity, etc.  Bruce's own work, and a couple of experiences which I was able to have as a result of reading some of his material, was actually one of the main things that enabled me to understand that.

So if you see people mentioning Christianity a lot here, I think a big part of the point, is that people are comparing what they have been taught as Christians, with what their actual experiences in the Afterlife are.  By doing that, they can figure out what parts are true, what aren't, what maybe is true but is just distorted a little bit, and in that way, they can receive resolution and closure.

The other thing to understand, is that if you read some of Bruce's books, you'll find out that the idea of God sending you to Hell for eternity is a distortion.  Yes, the Hells exist, (and this is verifiable via your own experience, if you want to check it out for yourself) and yes, you can go to them, and yes, some of them can be very difficult to get out of.  That doesn't mean that you can not get out of them at all, however.  The reason why they are difficult to get out of, is because of the attitude of the individual themselves; not because of anything that any external God does.

Jesus was also an extremely positive person, who didn't have the intention of condemning anybody at all.  His purpose was actually completely the opposite.  I was afraid of him for quite a long time myself, until I realised that. 

It's important to remember that the only person who ever really judges or condemns us, is ourselves.  The system itself doesn't want to do that, because unlike us, it recognises that every individual is a necessary piece of the puzzle, and thus, condemnation is actually a form of blocking or impediment to universal optimisation.  In other words, the universe needs all of us in order to be perfect, and so it is not going to condemn any of us, because to do so, would prevent it from being what it wants.

Griffin:

I don't believe it would make sense to tell people to trust the spirits I communicate with more than the spirits they communicate with, because they don't know whether or not I'm communicating with trustworthy spirits.

What a person needs to do is make certain that the spirits he (or she) communicates with are trustworthy. I've found that it can take some time to become really certain, even if you experience love and peace when you are in contact with a spirit.

I've also found that even though I communicate with friendly spirits, occasionally unfriendly spirits try to mislead me. Therefore, I always need to use my discrimination when I receive information from a spirit.

Griffin wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 10:16pm: