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Oct 21st, 2012 at 8:35pm
 
I just returned from a Methodist workshop in southern Washington state.  I was asked to pray for Kathy's friend, Elaine, who is in her 9th year battling ovarian cancer (stage 3 and spreading, chemo, etc.).  Elaine goes to Spokane for more tests next week, so hopefully there is improvement or, better, complete healing.  Elaine is a high school teacher and her husband Rick is a highschool principal.  Elaine and Rick shared these two ADCs with me.

Elaine's niece, Tami H, had died unexpectedly, while a student at Washington State.  It was Christmas about a year later and a family reunion was planned. Elaine asked Rick to try to get some eggs at a nearby mini-mart.  There was only one carton of a dozen eggs left.  Rick paid for it and received a dollar bill and some change back, which he quickly stuffed in his pocket.  When he got home, he by chance noticed some writing on the dollar bill.  It read "Tami H." with a smiley face underneath.  Note the correct but unusual spelling (i. e. not "Tammy").  H was the initial of Tami's last name.  The cashier was  a stranger and wrote nothing on the bill in Rick's presence..  Besides, Tami had lived far, far away.  Rick and Elaine were both blown away by this ADC. 

Meanwhile, Tami's Mom (Elaine's sister) had been having several dreams and waking visions of her daughter.  Tami had always appeared full-bodied, but in the last vision she appeared only from the waist up.  Tami explained that it was becoming harder and harder to manifest visually to her Mom as she progressed on the other side.  This fits  nicely with research done in the 1970s indicating that 50% of Americans (48% of Brits) report ADC contact with their deceased loved ones during the first year of their passing.  After that, ADCs are relatively rare. 

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Reply #1 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 12:25am
 
Interesting story Don. (Nice to see no overt religious overtones to it.) Just a nice story about the bond of love.
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Reply #2 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 1:45am
 
By the way, Elaine had been to the healing spring at Lourdes. Her cancer went into remission, but it came back.   She gave me a sealed glass of water from this spring.  I already have a thermos of water from the healing spring at "the house of the Virgin Mary" at Ephesus in Turkey.

I've told the story here of how Dick thought this was a joke, but his wife Mary Ann convinced him to pour it on his knee with bad arthritis and torn tendons.  He had been scheduled for surgery frmo the top orthopedic surgeon in Spokane when he returned from Turkey.  The surgeon put him under anesthetic and cut him open, only to find nothing wrong.  Even the arthritis was gone!  I mean, the doctor had al MRIs, etc. to prove the tendons were torn and the arthritis was  there.

I also have a bottle of water from the Jordan River.  OK, some people collect stamps or rare coins; I collect water from holy springs or rivers.  Just imagine the healing service: one line gets anointed with Lourdes, another with the Virgin Mary's healing spring, and a 3rd with Jordan River water.  If I advertise this, it would bring a crowd.  But of course, I'd never do it.  Still, the fantasy is interesting.  And you can't buy those kinds of bottlled water at Wal-mart!
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Reply #3 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 6:42am
 
It's very amazing.
Do they have to do something in return? Like pray everyday, or commit to a certain kind of behavior from then on?

I have osteoarthritis in my right knee. The cartilage is completely gone and the knee is very damaged already. I can hardly believe it would work for me.
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Reply #4 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 8:08am
 
It is the thought that counts.  Literally.  In the NT, Jesus looks on those who were healed by his touch and says "your faith has made you whole."  Note that he did not say "my faith has made you whole." 

In other words, it is the belief of the good person in the healing, the certitude that by touching the hem of JC's robe, etc. they would be healed that activated their healing potential. 

In this regard, the origin of the water may or may not really be important.  I have seen healings documented where believer's were told that a healing talisman was applied, when in fact it was a sham.  The miraculous healing still came forth. 

The healing process may to some extent be imprinted on the water (see the work of Emoto), but it is less important than the internal belief/certitude/thanks/conviction of the supplicant.


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Reply #5 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 8:44am
 
I just visited http://nl.lourdes-france.org (english version: http://en.lourdes-france.org )

You can send them an email requesting for water. They only charge you for the shipping costs.
I sent them a mail with my adress requesting for water and additional instructions like prayers that should be said.

I believe in Christ. I believe in miracles and the power of the mind. I am convinced of the spiritual reality.

So I will just wait and see.
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Reply #6 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 4:21pm
 
Sometimes, Mogen things can be healed with faith.  Sometimes, we are given opportunities to heal with doctors and others in the physical world. 

I wouldn't let the Lourdes water be a test of your faith.  Many of the faithful go there for miracles but miracles aren't guaranteed.  It is simply that faith/conviction can change probabilities in the "real world" so that certain possibilities may be more likely. 

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Reply #7 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 5:23pm
 
I have been to the specialist in hospital just last week. He said the knee is so bad that the only option would be to put an artificial knee in it.
He said it's no option anymore to inject fluid cartilage in it anymore.

He also said that I have done the most important thing already myself. And that was losing weight. I have lost 18kg, about 40 pounds from october 2011 to april 2012.

I have been a vegetarian since 2008 or so but still used cheese on my bread. Last october I dumped the cheese and went completely dairy free. From that moment my body almost spontaneously started to dump fat. It was from then on very easy for me to eat only during meals and drink luke warm water between meals. Luke warm is softer for your stomach. I store it in a thermos can.

From now on I want to use affirmations to lose an extra 5kg of fat. Maybe it helps.

In 2004 I had an operation to set the lower leg in line with the upper leg. It had a small arch before that. But that was then already too late because most of the cartilage was gone by then already.

He advised me to stay in motion and watch my weight. In that way we should try to postpone the artificial knee as long as possible. Preferable until I'm 60 or so.
I don't have any pain. It's just with cycling that making the 90+ degrees bend is a bit too difficult in the first 5 minutes. He said that's because of the lining out of the leg in 2004.

I'm open to try the water of Lourdes. I don't expect too much of it. But if you don't try and are not open you don't give it a chance either.
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Reply #8 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 6:55pm
 
OK Mogen, but just as an FYI,

You have to believe it will work.  In your gut.  At your core.   You have to give thanks for the healing before it occurs, and cultivate the emotions and feeling of how you will feel if you are free of pain and walking well.  If you say "I don't think it will work but will try..."  it won't.

WIth meditation, you can let the healing thought slip to imprint itself onto your subconscious till it becomes a true conviction. 

Now my belief is that when you are convinced you will heal, the cure may come.  And while miraculous cures may happen, you also may be given another opportunity - a medical treatment, pill, topical agent, etc. that greatly improves your function and pain. 

Be open to the possibilities.

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Reply #9 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 9:23pm
 
Well Doc,

Don told the story of Dick who had severe arthritis on his knee and thought it was a joke. But it did work for him. Even while he thought it was a joke ...
That's strange. Because Dick must not have been convinced or so that it would work.

I do have pills against inflammation, diclofenac, I hope that name is the same in english as in dutch. I usually have a thick knee and when it hurts I have a little pill to inhibit the inflammation.

But I am certainly convinced that it can work. I have worked with spiritual energy in the past and in one occasion it was with such intensity that it would surprise you if I told you about it. That was an extreme and unique occurence. I did that together with the help of my spiritual guides. They must have helped me to process the karmic effects of it. I say that because of the typical way that happened. Nevertheless it took me years to get over it...

So I am convinced as far as it can get. In my humble opinion.  ; )

But if it wouldn't work, I just keep on breathing. I'm ok with it.
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Reply #10 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 10:02pm
 
There are other treatments too Mogen.  There is a lubricant injectoin in the US called "Synvisc" or "Orthovisc" that helps a lot of people.  There is a topical treatment with Lidocaine called Lidoderm and there are nutritional treatments that help including Bromelain, Turmeric and Glucosamine-Chondroitan.


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Reply #11 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 10:23pm
 
My doctor said the knee is too damaged for a lubricant injection.
I think Lidocaine only suppresses pain. I have used Lidocaine for another purpose and it worked reasonable well. I don't know about the nutritional treatments you mentioned, but the cartilage is all but gone.

Some years after the correctional surgery to line up the lower and upper leg a photo was taken of the inside of the knee and it showed that the cartilage was practically gone. I have seen that with my own eyes.
Recent x-rays, april 2012, showed the knee was so badly damaged that to the judgement of the doctor lubricant injection is no longer an option.

I am scheduled for another appointment in april 2013. So we do keep an eye on it.
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Reply #12 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 11:31pm
 
Maybe try the lubricant anyway or get a second opinion about it?  Some surgeons just like to operate...
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Reply #13 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 11:49pm
 
The main problem is when I make the 90+ degree bend on the bycicle.
There is a piece of joint from the lower leg that pushes against the joint from the upper leg.
It's on the outside of the knee. On the backside.

The doctor said that was caused by the surgery back in 2004 to correct the outlining of the upper and lower leg. The knee now uses more of the outside then before the surgery to glide during movements.

What I was thinking about is if it would be possible to just take away that little knob. It could be maybe 1 or 2 mm thick. But if important tissue sticks there it may not be possible. Or maybe the bone could start to bleed very much. I don't know. I'm not too much of a specialist in that.

Walking goes much better then before. That's because I lost so much weight. I do use a cane for walking. It allows me to walk straight up. I had to overcome my pride to use it but walking is better then only using the bicycle. You use your muscles the way you are supposed to used them. In the natural way.
I started that about a week ago when my bycicle broke down and had to buy a new chain.
I have to build up power in the muscles to extend my range. I'm 52 now. That's ok for using a cane. I hardly see any other people on the street except much older people using a cane. But I guess all the others rather stay inside or get an artificial knee too soon.
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Reply #14 - Oct 23rd, 2012 at 10:34am
 
Don-

If this ADC is genuine, it raises some interesting questions.

All along I've heard/read that once someone has passed over, and they are still in the earth plane, they have no ability to affect physical things.

For instance, they pass their ethereal hands right through solid objects.  Nor can they pick up a pencil and write a note.

On the other hand, many people report that shortly after a loved one dies, they can not only sense their presence but can sometimes feel their hands pressing down on them as they lie in bed (which, by the way, happened to me the night after my own dad died).

So I have to wonder.....which is it?  Can the deceased affect the physical environment or not? 

I still have to think there's some sort of protocol that determines such things.  And it's something that no one has been able to figure out.  Why do some of us get solid ADCs while others, equally in need, get nothing.

I know that sometimes we do get signs or signals that we might dismiss or ignore.  I'm not excluding those things, nor am I excluding vivid dreams.

I'm really talking about solid, almost irrefutable evidence that our loved one survived death.  Those things remain all too infrequent (such as your Leonard story, which you might want to repeat for benefit of the newbies).

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