I just uploaded a new page that shows two examples of Digital Phantom Leaf Images.  You can see them at http://afterlife-knowledge.com/phanpics.html

There is also a more detailed description of Digital Phantom Leaf Photography with pictures that illustrate the method.

I am curious to know if any of you can see the phantom leaf vein structures in either of the two examples shown near the bottom of the page?  Post your comments to this thread and maybe we can start some conversation on the topic.

Bruce

  Interesting Bruce.  I can't say that i know for sure what this is really about one way or another, but have you ruled out the well known, amazing ability of the human mind and it's tendency to "fill in" when there seems to be "missing" or distorted data which is talked about in a lot of psychological circles, studies, etc? 

  For a simplified example, if i write a slightly garbled message using word and word like symbols but not in the conventional, usual, expected way, u r 2 Gr8, your mind almost automatically will translate that into a sense perception and knowing of "you are too great".  In a sense, you bypass the distorted version and "see" what you are used to perceiving and expect to see. 

  Or, if we see a picture with parts of it missing, we can still perceive the whole "message" or total data of the picture because our mind works to connect the dots to perceive the whole picture.  Perhaps in such a case, if we look at the picture long and hard enough, we may even actually sort of "see" those missing pieces of the picture?

  Like you, i completely believe in the reality of nonphysical because of my own experiences and verifications with that using nonphysical means and perceptions, but i'm not sure if i was a newbie, or someone rather skeptical of nonphysical reality, that i would necessarily buy into the Leaf phenomena if i understood the commonly known and more psychological understandings of how the mind tends to work to fill in and/or translate missing or distorted data. 

   Perhaps it's not that we are actually seeing any image there, but rather our mind tricks us into believing we are seeing it there, because part of us fills in the data because we "Like" our usual images and seeing the "whole picture"?  What is the saying, "nature abhors a vacuum."  We like things neat, tidy, and natural and our perceptions, minds, and beliefs tend to work around that in a spontaneous, organic way outside of just particularly strong ideas and emotional thoughts which is what we "normally" associate with "belief systems."  

  In any case, whether or not this is a real nonphysical type phenomenon, this is why your other work is so invaluable.  Teaching people through nonphysical senses and means to have nonphysically oriented perceptions and experiences, which can get verified independently.  Things that our conscious minds, according to the existing paradigms of science, cannot possibly know because there is no previous physical data to fill in that awareness.

   Also, as someone who has been given messages on Earth changes and who is familiar with other reputable sources who have also, i would suggest that those times are fast approaching (not this year though), and that the real growth and awareness in our society will happen through having to work together in a more unified way via recognized necessity due to severity and the rough shape the world will be in. 

  Much growth will come through that, and as people start to live PUL more in relation to others, as you are also aware, this naturally and innately tends to expand their perceptions and perceptual capacity, helping them to get beyond limiting belief systems and dogmas. 

  Much growth, will also come after the collapse when human examples arise who demonstrate what full attunement to PUL looks like and can "do".  I'm not the only one who has gotten such messages, Rosalind McKnight in her work with Monroe and with expanded guidance also received very similar and clear messages outlining this. 

Becky and i also have received other messages about more direct contact with E.T. groups, which will certainly shake up a lot of entrenched belief systems and help to expand perception in many ways.  Also something that Rosalind had seen.   

Thanks for posting this. Intriguing. I do see some veins, and am not sure they are exactly like those they appear to be extending from, but I do see something there. I have come back to it several times to be sure, over the course of a day.

It reminds me of how those who have lost a limb can still feel a 'phantom' limb, or so they say. So, this gives me pause for thought. What we have lost, any of us, is not necessarily lost. There is, at the very least, a 'snapshot' -- a picture -- of what was there.

It also makes me wonder. Does the leaf believe that its 'part' which was snipped away is still there? Is it the 'belief' of the 'leaf' which makes it so? Or, from where does the 'phantom' come?

It boggles the mind, and certainly leaves room for hope of many kinds.

Vicky,

Thanks for letting me know what you can see of the veins.  It's kind of an exercise in just looking and letting whatever pattern pops up. Nice to know you see them too.  I'll be happy when the method is more developed so that it is easier to see. .

Vicky wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 2:18am:


Interesting, using a green filter.  I'll have to try that, never thought of it.  It is kind of like the red filter in games that let you read a word obscured by red ink, like the old Password game if you aren't too young to know that one.  I hadn't noticed the oblong shape, I'll have to look closer.

As I get more good examples I will share them for comments.

Thanks you thorough description.

Bruce

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When doing  basic research I find it more productive to approach it in the role of a true skeptic.  When exploring something new a skeptic refuses to come to a conclusion.  Lacking a conclusion tends to help keep an open mind and fueling a desire for more and more information.  Eventually a large enough  body of facts will begin naturally lead toward greater understanding.

Looking for a conclusion or an alternate explanation too early tends to close off exploration and experimentation too early. 

Thanks,

Bruce

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I fully expect that if this technique can be refined to give good clear images, pictures  of  phantom limbs will be possible.  Maybe even movies using digital video.  At that point I would like to get a "ghost" to move in front of the camera!

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Great questions.  And the best part is the process is pretty simple and doesn't require a lot of expensive equipment.  I think most any camera and computer savy person could grt involved.

Thanks,

Bruce

Very interesting results, Bruce. I can definitely see the vein traces, and also that - as Betson has noted - some seem misaligned with their "physical" continuations.

It's significant that the cut leaf portion was removed before placing the leaf in position for photographing, or, at least, that the leaf was not in continuous contact with a surface during the cutting process - if I have understood your process correctly. Back in the 1980s, I built a Kirlian device, using a high-frequency spark tester borrowed from my then workplace. I took the usual pictures of finger pads, etc, as well as of inorganic objects such as coins. I also tried to replicate the phantom leaf effect widely claimed at the time. I found this only worked if I cut away the leaf portion while it was positioned on the photographic sheet, but not when I cut the leaf first and then placed it on the sheet. My conclusion was that the "phantom" effect was an artefact of residual moisture, tissue etc.

Your results seem to overcome that possibility.

Would there also, I wonder, be a "phantom" leaf extending from the tree in the position the leaf was originally cut from? If so, does that imply an infinite replication of phantoms (or vice versa)?

Alfred

Pauli, interesting possibilities you raise which may explain things without having to rely on paranormal explanations:
"Either there is some kind of residual moistness, or it is an imprint in the glass late
itself which creates the lingering leaf part."