Wonderer wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 6:28am:"What exactly happens when we die?" "What's in heaven waiting for us and what kind of afterlife we will have? Is is solid there?". "Is hell really made of fire and full of monsters?". "Why a 3 year old kid dies and goes to heaven and the old bad man who lived till he was 70 ended up in hell? Is that fair?" (never heard about reincarnation until I was an adult)
"Why we have all the food on earth and those in 3rd word countries are starving to death?"
"Or maybe, there are many rooms" "
what if, we were not given any more details, so that we are not conditioned on how we act in life? "
Isn't pure unconditional love something we do without expecting a reward? Those of you that feel they know a lot about their afterlife...do you feel that you act out of love genuinely and purely, or because you know that if you do that, then you can advance in the afterlife and maybe become more, I don't know, whatever you think you will become?
Have our memories and past life experiences been striped away and given very little info about the afterlife on purpose?
Hi Wonderer.
Welcome to the Bord. I`d like to offer my perspective for Dialogue, which I humbly say is no expert on my part, however may spark a few thoughts.
What happens when we die is: according to my experience almost compareable to what happens when we grow up. Theres a toddler Wonderer, whom adva
nces to the child Wonderer, who
advances to the teenage Wonderer, whom
advances to Adult Wonderer. For each "phase" or "stage" of life the before ongoing stage is "dead",
but is
Wonderer really dead? Of course not. Very much so alive, however very much more "
experienced" for the upcoming challenges of the "next stage".
Well for some people
Hell is very much full of fire and monsters, considering what "they percieve" that to be. Again here, we are dealing with "perception", example as we live it out "in the flesh" here on earth. Lets say 1 exact same Scenerio,
yet 2 different "people same age and gender", . The Szenerio: Wife divorces Husband, looses immediate contact to child". Husband #1 had very little contact to his child during the marriage prior to divorce. Husband #2 was a stay at home Dad and had been around his child 24/7. FOR Husband #2, whom has the same "HELL" as the Husband #1, will "percieve this HELL" as
devastating, whereas Husband #1 "percieves" it as "Oh well, just another day", ergo "no Hell at all". Its all about how the individual Soul percieves his individual crossover and pertaining "
thoughts/energies".
We dont "die"! Our earthly Vehicle is "traded in" for a
better one. We have simply allowed "Religions" to scare us with the word "die". The
real YOU is not what you see in the mirror. he
Real YOU is your SOUL. Heres an example: Your Car an
old rusted Pinto (your earthly body) is your vehicle to travel down the many highways of life, right? You`re "using" the car (your body) to travel. Behind the steeringwheel sits the driver (Your soul). So when YOU the driver (Soul) has reached your point of desireing a shiney new Mercedes, you trade in the old one and get a new one. You dont really hurt over the fact that you just got rid of your old rusted Pinto, after the moment you have the steering wheel of the new Mercedes in your hands. BUT the DRIVER stays the same, its merely the Vehicle which has been "consciously" changed. (The 3 years old came here to do what it did and then leave, the 70 year old did the same thing as the 3 year old, with exception his Soul wanted to experience more
in the flesh)
We have 3rd world country
starvation, because these Souls firstly decided that they would play the Role of being in that situation because they experience things thru that Scenerio and secondly because we "collectively" have choosen to "experience what it feels like to know" that these people are starving till death and we will at some point "collectively" do something about it. Until then, people will starve and that because of "collective state in lack of the utilisation of our resources". In our world we "have an abundance" of everything, yet the "
perception has not been achieved". Ask yourself why the Fast Food Chains "THROW away" what they dont sell by the end of the day? Grocerie Stores toss out food into garbage cans, even though they are not "spoiled"? Its a mashinary of greed. When we "collectively" begin to EVOLVE to "compassion over greed" thats when it stops.
Yes, aaaah, the Bible (one of my favorite
history Books)....the Bible gives us hints to much. However the true Scriptures have been mutalated beyond recognition, and this by mankind. There are many rooms in Heaven..Matter of Fact Bruce tells us of the ones he knows of. We call it After Life. Some call it Realms, others Spheres others Heaven. But the Bible clearly allows one to understand that theres more "perceptions" than 1, by telling us "many rooms"...
Pure unconditional Love happens when you are at pure peace within, no matter what the other person infront of you does.
Total acceptance. That is TRUE LOVE... =>LIKE OUR UNIVERSE
displays with us, all the time, every day, every min. of our "adventure here in the flesh to experience all the emotions, understanding along the way until we have experienced what the real YOU, has experienced"
to your Point: Love/Reward. Well I can only speak for myself, but I am truthful in saying the more I progress in the matter of things, comprehending that we are essentially ONE, the more I have come to realise that IF I CAN HELP THE PERSON IN FRONT OF ME TO EXPERIENCE LOVE and to act out of it, then that means I too experience it. Of course this is tremendiously hard when one has to rid themselves of "templates" first. (What we have learned to adapt to thru lifes situations and peers)
Hugs and sending lots of love,
(also to all of my wonderful friends here in this Bord).
Nanner