Wonderer wrote on Feb 21^st, 2012 at 5:16am:


   Wonderer, you are quite funny!  I especially liked your earlier back and forth with the also new poster Andrew who showed up so conveniently, it was pure comedy.

   I saw you post on my "Cycles of Change and Civilization Altering Processes" thread.  Are you really going to play that "coy" with me?  "Yup, just us innocent newbie folks asking questions here."   Lordy, you folks are so easy to see through.   

   Re:  the other thing you said, well it's not quite so black and white as what you hinted and insinuated.   I have planted strong subconscious seeds of truth that will sprout for individuals when the time is ready for them.  For some, those sprouts have already started to unfurl, and for others it may take awhile more.  Depends on their freewill use and their individual path and whether or not they follow the advice of seeking only the most expanded Guidance possible.

   But when those things of the future that i spoken of many times here come to pass as they will, people who read my words here previously, may remember some of the things i told them, and believe you me those sprouts will be coming out all over the place.  They may start thinking, "you know, that crazy sounding dude Justin, just may have known what he was talking about.  I wonder what else he told me was also true..."   

   In fact, we might start seeing some "cha cha chia's" running around!  (remember those old "chia pet" commercials? LOL). 

   Wonderer, do you have some more entertainment and comedy for us?   I know you are a paid comedian and all.  I love your one liners.  My Teacher just told me, "Yep, back in my day they tried these same silly tactics with me too, and i also had a good laugh at them as well.  They tried to be 'subtle', but were they ever easy to see through" 

  Oh, what a world and "civilization" we live in.     Nonetheless, i love you comedians as much as i love anyone.  That's the key to self liberation folks.

  And yet, despite what you say Wonderer, i can't help but notice really strong contradictions in certain actions and words, which i plainly pointed out between two threads. 

  Nonetheless, i enjoy your presence here.  Please keep posting your funny posts.

  Maybe later Wonderer, but i really DO need to get back to this book.  I keep letting myself get pulled back here, but no more- ---though i will start one more relevant thread here. 

Two people have suggested that Wonderer is  a person who has visited this forum with another name. When I consider his posts on various threads I do not believe this is true. I believe it would be best to be really careful about suggesting such thing. Especially when the person involved isn't being disruptive.

recoverer wrote on Feb 21^st, 2012 at 1:04pm:


  Albert, i understand what you say and mean, and what you said above goes to show what a sincere and good hearted person you are.  You unusually so, tend to see the better in others--ironic that some here at this site think you so judgmental and negative because you speak out about limiting and deceptive sources.

  However, sometimes you lack subtly of perception, and such undermining activities can be very subtle sometimes.  Take ACIM for example, subtle enough that most don't see through it.

  While our intents, desires,  aims, and ideals are very similar, and our paths generally similar (the straight and narrow), because of our different past experiences (talking other lives as well), well i tend to be more tuned into subtleties.  I'm more Feminine and Yin attuned. 

  In other words, i'm fairly sure i know what i'm talking about via my feeling intuitions and it feels like distraction and insincerity. 

  But it's no big deal one way or the other.  No real harm done, and i meant what i said, i enjoy their presences here. 

Hi Wonderer,

   I could be off in my perceptions--i did not ask Expanded Guidance about you under the ideal circumstances--during meditation while remembering Love, etc..  Notice i used the word "fairly" previously, i did not say completely. 

  At some point, i will ask Expanded Guidance about you and this issue. 

Either an apology to you will be forthcoming, or silence.  Depends on what i get.  From repeated experience, i've just learned to be a lot less trusting and naive than i use to be in both this and other lives.

  Yesterday, btw, i had an interesting experience.  When i was reading and writing some here, and thinking about certain things related to this thread, for a flash of about a  second i became aware of a presence checking me out and saw clearly (though briefly) a rather dark, almost black, rolly-flappy thing appear, which as soon as i became aware of and saw it, it left. 

  Not sure what it means in the larger picture sense, but i know it's related to a rather lacking in Light consciousness in some manner or form.  When you start to meddle with their plans, well they really don't like that, let's just say.  It's perhaps important to point out that i wasn't feeling at all negative when i had this experience, and when i saw/became aware of said presence, i felt no fear about it, just a little surprise and curiosity (it's rare for me to see nonphysical consciousnesses in a clearly physical way).

P.S., i've learned many very valuable lessons in this life.  It's one of the benefits of a more conscious connection to that Expanded Guidance level. 

This thread is an interesting study of characters and their interactions.