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What's your opinion on "A Course in Miracles"? (Read 57701 times)
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Reply #45 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:34am
 
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And thank you Mj for speaking up about your experiences and subtle guidance with this so called spiritual course.  I speak not of nor for myself, but in appreciation of principles and in the spirit of hoping others do not get stuck and influenced negatively by it

  Experience and especially direct guidance with something is so much more powerful, affecting, perception opening, and teaching than a lack of same or intellectual theorizing. Both Lucy and Kathy would do well to remember that.

  I am fully confident that if everyone here sincerely tried that two part method of attuning to guidance that i've outlined a few times here, and asked with no preconceptions about this course and if it came from very lacking in Light (and ill intentioned) sources or not, they would be told each time that indeed it does.   If they asked if it had a negative, brainwashing effect, i know they would be told it does. 

    Yet, the truly adamant ones will not take up this challenge, but instead debate and argue with, and take personal pot shots that those who just simply are speaking out of their concern for others and this world. 

  Curious world we live in, and curious beings we humans are! 


Dear Justin, I have to say that, in all my spiritual research, you are first person I have come across (besides some devout Baptists Smiley) who has had an actually problem with ACIM. Sure, I've run into people who don't think that the details are accurate, but the actual spiritual curriculum seems to be accepted by most.

ACIM seems to help many more people than it hinders, dear friend.
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Reply #46 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 11:27am
 
Lucy wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:18am:
Wonderer, I really wonder who you are and what led you to bring up this "nasty" topic....
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Wonderer, be careful what you ask for you just might get it.



Hi Lucy!

I'm just a normal person who is always open to information and opinions from all kind of beings Smiley

I'm sorry that maybe this topic created such a debate and honestly didn't know there was another thread on this topic. I should have search the forum better, so I apologize for that.

I love asking as I love hearing what others have to say, so its OK if I 'get' into something Smiley
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Reply #47 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 11:31am
 
Andrew wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:30am:
Hi Wonderer! It's great to see you here as well! It's always interesting to encounter forum members from our website in different places!


Hey Andrew!

I guess that similar minded people are drawn to similar places isn't it!! Smiley 

Yes, it is nice to see you here as well. I love asking the same questions in different forums, it's amazing how different the answers we get!

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Reply #48 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 11:51am
 
Yeah, I like to go to different forums and try to spread the afterlife message whenever I have free time.

Plus, I always find it interesting to go from being well-known on AfterlifeForums.com, to simply being a rather obscure member here. I like to get both perspectives of the online experience!
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Reply #49 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 11:52am
 
Could one of you who thinks that ACIM is so terrible please give the reason(s) why you think so? I've never anyone who against it before!

Thank you!
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Reply #50 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 12:23pm
 
Kathy made a statement about my hostilities towards ACIM and Gurus (she also referred to Justin). For anybody who is interested here is an article I wrote about gurus. Am I hostile, or just trying to help out?

http://nondualityisdualistic.com/articles-2/do-you-need-a-guru-december-9-2011/



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Reply #51 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 12:24pm
 
Read some of the previous posts on this thread.

Andrew wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 11:52am:
Could one of you who thinks that ACIM is so terrible please give the reason(s) why you think so? I've never anyone who against it before!

Thank you!

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Reply #52 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 12:49pm
 
Lucy:

On one of my posts I said the following:

"Justin:

Yes it's strange, Hugh Prather saw the effects of the course yet he hadn't reached the point (as far as I know) where he could thoroughly consider it's validity."

Please see my responses to parts of your post below (within brackets).

[quote author=2C150319600 link=1329479990/40#40 date=1329650310]Well I decided to jump in anyway.

Wonderer, I really wonder who you are and what led you to bring up this "nasty" topic...

[This isn't Wonderer's first post. What are you implying? That he wrote his previous posts with the intent of someday starting this thread?  Perhaps this topic is nasty because when some people choose to speak about their experiences with ACIM other people choose to villify such people and make statements about their motives that aren't true.]]

Posts about ACIM always evolve to arguments about the validity of the making of ACIM rather than about the content itself. Maybe we should have a group read of ACIM and discuss the contents!

[If you read some of the previous posts you'll see that comments about the course's content were made.]

And id you fall asleep reading it, well maybe it is just over your head. You's probably fall asleep reading serious work about string theory too.

[Wow! The above statement was unnecessary and perhaps a bit elitist. Regarding the lady who used visit this forum and quote ACIM fairly often, when I told her I wasn't going to read ACIM anymore she said that I wasn't ready for it. To some degree she was buying into ACIM's statement that eventually everybody will read the course because it is required reading. People might want to ask themselves if they are comfortable with a book that claims to be required reading.]

Your guidance is just that: YOUR guidance. I don't care if you claim it is Jesus himself or any other name you want to use for that entity. I can't tell the difference between YOUR guidance and the guidance of anyone else. The trouble is, you make it sound like your guidance is the be all and end all authority for everyone. Well, it ain't. Do you understand what you sound like? You sound like every guru that ever came down the road and claimed to have a direct line to God. When you claim to have been misunderstood, I can only think that you do not understand how you come across.

[You're basically correct about the above. People don't know what my guidance is about so it is best that they do as Justin suggested and find a way to get trustworthy information for themselves.]

This leads to the situation that Kathy described so well:"Interesting that you don't want to censored, but when it comes to someone else expressing their opinion you become argumentative in ways that show no respect for what another has to say. Other people have tried to discuss this with you previously, too.  Other people do have the right to speak out as well, but the two of you are so passionate about your hostilities against ACIM, gurus, etc. that you make it next to impossible for others to speak their own opinions for fear of being undermined or possibly even directly attacked, so maybe what I've said about using coercion may indeed apply to you both.  Not that coercion would be your intention, but that others would possibly feel thay way simply because you are so adament about it.  "

[The above is why on a previous post I mentioned what Justin is like in person. When I've spoken to him he was never pushy. Electronic communication is tricky. Some people might mistake delligence with pushyness. Not to say that I've never been pushy in the past. There have been occasions when I became overzealous. When it comes to this thread I haven't felt any angst at all. If people want to consider what I say, fine. If not, fine.]

It creates a situation where open conversation is not possible.

btw, Albert, the Hugh Prather quote is a little out of context as I believe Prather stayed in the ACIM community until his death in Nov? 2010. If he felt that way, why woul dhe stay?

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Reply #53 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 12:57pm
 
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Thanks mjd for sharing your experience and all the best to your journey too  Smiley


Thank you! Kind regards, mj


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And thank you Mj for speaking up about your experiences and subtle guidance with this so called spiritual course.  I speak not of nor for myself, but in appreciation of principles and in the spirit of hoping others do not get stuck and influenced negatively by it.  <snipped> 


Thanks Justin! Kind regards, mj
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Reply #54 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 1:00pm
 
You're welcome MJD.

Just Me wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 2:06am:
Hi Wonderer,

I don't have an opinion for you, but wanted to take the time to thank the members that posted about "weird" experiences in trying to read this book. I am an avid reader and I really, really struggled with reading it and had no idea why. There are some books that are boring and I put them down. There are some books I have to read straight through and know what happens. There are other books I highlight and reference all the time. However, none of that applies to ACIM. I downloaded an electronic version of it and I couldn't get through it and didn't understand why. I always felt vaguely uncomfortable every time I made an attempt to get through it. Other than outrageously gory stuff or badly written material, I can usually read anything. I just couldn't get through this book and it's a bit comforting to know some other people had similar reactions to it. To this day, I can't really explain what it was. I just knew I shouldn't go there.

All the best in your journey,
mj

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Reply #55 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 1:21pm
 
Hi Andrew (and everyone),

I will attempt to explain this from my viewpoint. I hope you understand this is not about one man, one book, one theory, etc. This is about the concept of allowing your inner-self (higher self, God presence, however you define the One) to be your guide in what is *right* for your journey.

Personally, I did not say I had a negative or positive experience. I said I had a nondescript experience that was confusing to me since I tend to read constantly and have a never-ending thirst for understanding everything. I was not able to finish this book and I still don't know why. That doesn't mean it's bad or wrong for anyone else. It just did not provide me a window in which to connect with its information. That's it.

Notwithstanding this particular issue, it is important to remember there is no difference in giving away our power to something or someone else. We think of addiction to alcohol, drugs, promiscuous behavior as bad, but nobody bats an eye when we give up our own thinking to follow a spiritual leader, person in authority or someone outside our-self. It's all the same. We are looking to something outside ourselves to give us the answer when we, our consciousness and Higher self, is absolutely ready and prepared to provide the answers we seek.

The point I'm trying to make is it's irrelevant why anyone else didn't care for the book. It's only relevant what you think of it and how it impacts your life and journey. No two people, not even twins, have the exact same experiences and journey. Nobody does and what works for me may not work for you. What works for you may not work for me. It's not "bad" or "good" or "wrong" or "right;" it just is.

It's not the destination...it's the journey that teaches us and helps us grow.

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Reply #56 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 2:01pm
 
Hi mjd, liked reading about your viewpoint, good post.
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Reply #57 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 3:17pm
 
Mjd-

that's another yes from me !
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Reply #58 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 3:44pm
 
It is fine to listen to our higher self. But we don't want to put ourselves in the position where we can never learn anything from others.

Consider the soul groups some people speak of. Souls work together to learn what they need to learn. Nothing wrong with that.

As far as I'm concerned there is nothing wrong with sharing our experiences and knowledge with others if doing so will be beneficial to whoever is interested.

Or in other words, I disagree with MJD's statement that it is irrelavant what others think of the book. It is sad when people try to be helpful to others and then other people minimize such efforts.

Just as MJD tried to be helpful towards JDE on another thread, some of us tried to be helpful on this thread.

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Reply #59 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 3:54pm
 
Hi MJ

I agree.  Very well stated!  Thank you.

Kathy
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