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Lucy:
On one of my posts I said the following:
"Justin:
Yes it's strange, Hugh Prather saw the effects of the course yet he hadn't reached the point (as far as I know) where he could thoroughly consider it's validity."
Please see my responses to parts of your post below (within brackets).
[quote author=2C150319600 link=1329479990/40#40 date=1329650310]Well I decided to jump in anyway.
Wonderer, I really wonder who you are and what led you to bring up this "nasty" topic...
[This isn't Wonderer's first post. What are you implying? That he wrote his previous posts with the intent of someday starting this thread? Perhaps this topic is nasty because when some people choose to speak about their experiences with ACIM other people choose to villify such people and make statements about their motives that aren't true.]]
Posts about ACIM always evolve to arguments about the validity of the making of ACIM rather than about the content itself. Maybe we should have a group read of ACIM and discuss the contents!
[If you read some of the previous posts you'll see that comments about the course's content were made.]
And id you fall asleep reading it, well maybe it is just over your head. You's probably fall asleep reading serious work about string theory too.
[Wow! The above statement was unnecessary and perhaps a bit elitist. Regarding the lady who used visit this forum and quote ACIM fairly often, when I told her I wasn't going to read ACIM anymore she said that I wasn't ready for it. To some degree she was buying into ACIM's statement that eventually everybody will read the course because it is required reading. People might want to ask themselves if they are comfortable with a book that claims to be required reading.]
Your guidance is just that: YOUR guidance. I don't care if you claim it is Jesus himself or any other name you want to use for that entity. I can't tell the difference between YOUR guidance and the guidance of anyone else. The trouble is, you make it sound like your guidance is the be all and end all authority for everyone. Well, it ain't. Do you understand what you sound like? You sound like every guru that ever came down the road and claimed to have a direct line to God. When you claim to have been misunderstood, I can only think that you do not understand how you come across.
[You're basically correct about the above. People don't know what my guidance is about so it is best that they do as Justin suggested and find a way to get trustworthy information for themselves.]
This leads to the situation that Kathy described so well:"Interesting that you don't want to censored, but when it comes to someone else expressing their opinion you become argumentative in ways that show no respect for what another has to say. Other people have tried to discuss this with you previously, too. Other people do have the right to speak out as well, but the two of you are so passionate about your hostilities against ACIM, gurus, etc. that you make it next to impossible for others to speak their own opinions for fear of being undermined or possibly even directly attacked, so maybe what I've said about using coercion may indeed apply to you both. Not that coercion would be your intention, but that others would possibly feel thay way simply because you are so adament about it. "
[The above is why on a previous post I mentioned what Justin is like in person. When I've spoken to him he was never pushy. Electronic communication is tricky. Some people might mistake delligence with pushyness. Not to say that I've never been pushy in the past. There have been occasions when I became overzealous. When it comes to this thread I haven't felt any angst at all. If people want to consider what I say, fine. If not, fine.]
It creates a situation where open conversation is not possible.
btw, Albert, the Hugh Prather quote is a little out of context as I believe Prather stayed in the ACIM community until his death in Nov? 2010. If he felt that way, why woul dhe stay?
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