Seraphis1 wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 1:03pm:[quote author=7B42544E370 link=1294677881/63#63 date=1298211410]
But I believe that Robert Bruce is one of the most accurate practical theoretical metaphysical thinkers alive and practicing to day. I believe that his discovery of the exact mechanism of the Astral Projection mechanics alone will eventually get him a Nobel Prize when the Nobel prize people begins recognizing achievement in Metaphysics:
Here is a brief description of his discovery:
There is a fundamental energy body which resides within the physical body and does not leave the body until death. The fundamental energy body however generates an etheric double which leaves the body when it (physical body is asleep) and does a number of things during sleep… its primary function is to recharge with divine cosmic energy thus maintaining life in the physical body… in the course of a controlled projection one becomes aware of the etheric double as it enters and interacts in the astral plane. One only remembers the events when one can shift one’s point of consciousness into the etheric body, this results in the phenomena of becoming aware of having two bodies… because when the poc is shifted all your cognitive faculties are in the poc… so it becomes aware of separation from the body and can look back and see one’s own body.
Well here is how I verified for myself personally that this is a true analysis of the mechanism. A few years ago I decide to see if fasting and sleep deprevation was a valid method to do obe’ing. After seven days of water only and getting up a hour earlier that my normal time to waken… I watched my etheric double leave my heart chakra float out in front of me… then, I consciously shifted my poc into the etheric double… to say the least I was astounished (much later) when I realize that I had just verified Robert Bruce’s brilliant discovery and delineation of that exact astral projection sequence.
S.
Seraphis1,
Just because one method works, doesn't mean it's the only method that works, nor the best method. I read some of RB's stuff years ago, didn't agree with some of the stuff he claims is the "only" way it works, so I stopped reading. Maybe he does have some good stuff to share...but to comment on what I quoted you saying...
I'm a diabetic, and there's no way I can or will starve myself just to have an OBE. It's not even necessary. Why put myself through agony and near death when there are way more easier methods for OBE than that?? I'm not saying it doesn't work, I believe it does, you are correct. However, you can also have OBEs on drugs and painkillers....is that a great method too just because it works? No, certainly not.
I will always support Bruce Moen's methods, especially here since this is his website, but from my own personal experience, Bruce's teachings and techniques have been the easiest to induce an OBE. I know that he doesn't teach that his methods cause OBEs, but I have noticed from my own personal experience that his methods easily led me into having an OBE.
I have other methods too, besides Bruce Moen's work, that also induce OBE that I didn't learn from RB and that RB doesn't teach.
At the end of the day, I go with what works for me, and if it's easiest and healthiest, then that makes the most sense to me.
Vicky
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