Thanks Volu.  Hmm,  not sure about that, maybe you should try communicating with He/She about that one?

Beau:

Even Robert Bruce reached the point where he had to admit that Sai Baba molested boys. Before one irresponsibly dismisses such allegations one should do some thorough research.

If we were talking about child molesting Catholic priests, I bet you people wouldn't be so quick to use the word "allegation." It seems as if this word is used to establish innoncense without really knowing.

Beau wrote on Feb 19^th, 2011 at 1:41pm:

The  below is from J.M. Pardy’s book “Awakening to the Reconnection” (pages 184-185). Balance recommended it at the below thread. I believe it relates to some of what we discussed.

http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1287573466

-When I first saw this man, I could see as he stood in front of me that behind him were hundreds of  souls, followers of his. They were all asleep. They looked like zombies. They were awake, yet they were asleep. This man had taken a position of leadership, yet he himself didn’t have the answers to help them awaken. It was like the blind leading the blind, so to speak.

Actually, I had another dream along the same lines as this one where I was taken to another well-known leader in the spiritual community. This was a much nicer encounter, but the same message was in it. In the dream I was taken to this man. He was holding meditation classes. I do use his meditation CDs; I love them and have ever since I started using them.
He walked up to me, and we were facing each other. Once again I noticed that the souls he was training were all walking around as if they were asleep, just wandering aimlessly.

He asked me, “How did you get the code?”

I said I couldn’t tell him.

“But how did you get it? I need that code,” he said.

I said, “I’m sorry, I just can’t tell you.”

He then handed me his meditation CD, saying, “You have changed it.”

“Yes,” I said, “I have changed a few things.”
He said, “That’s fine.”

With that, the dream ended. The code they were looking for was the one to awaken the soul to the dream world. I don’t know why during this encounter my higher self would pass it on, but I know there must have been a reason and I will leave it at that for now.

If one looks at the photo of Sai Baba on the link I provided, one is likely to see that he has a very distinctive look.  Plus, on the same link, Robert Bruce didn't state that he saw somebody other than Sai Baba.

I think it is absolutely your right to feel the way you do Albert and even to express it here. When I first started coming here some of your posts would sway me into a fear mentality that I wasn't working my stuff out correctly, that maybe you were telling me what I needed to hear and I  was just attempting to somehow ignore it... I realized that that was not what  was going on, but I lost time thinking it thru because not many people at that time here were providing much retort to your style of thought. I think it was stuff you had to say about Seth (which I hadn't read at the time).

I think you have a very stringent rule set for what can pass as enlightenment. I would say that anything that gets us off our asses and in the Now is viable if only for at least a short while as we evolve. I do not think a person's actions are necessarily The Whole of that person.

I don't know anything about The Baba guy really and its not him that personally interests me but if I had taken your advice and not read Seth or Course in Miracles or whatever because of your reasoning and objections I would have missed out on some excellent points that have made profound gains for me. Right now I'm reading Tolle and it took me a bit to get into it but I really like it now. I don't know what you think of him but I would hazard a guess that because he sites A Course in Miracles you would not approve of his writings either.

Is it possible that you are ONLY looking for what you already know? I'm getting a little off the beat here, I guess, but when I see all this back and forth about how spiritual someone is and whether they are "dangerous" to listen to or god forbid- "Follow", I think
each person should move to the center from where they are. If I make a mistake along the line it is mine to make and my experience to gain from it.

The Church has always been quite good at disqualifying and discrediting any source other than its own microscopic view of things. Perhaps because of this fact it makes me jump in when someone is saying "don't believe it! This person did such and such so they and or their words can't be holy. Their information is tainted by their actions." We would have precious little to work from if this law were applied to all sources.

Bottom line: If one is looking for reasons to negate someone or something it is very easy to find it, especially these days. A lot of valuable information goes down the drain when a person's weaknesses become their whole identification. I would rather read from the experienced perspective than the from the perspective of the person who sits in judgement of the experiencer.

  Hi there Beau, 

  Most of the outer sources of info I like, i know aren't perfect and come from people that aren't perfect.  People who have failings, people who make mistakes, people who don't know everything, people not completely attuned to PUL and Source, etc.

  There is nothing wrong with that, it's "ok", and very few sources or beings in connection with this world are perfected (fully Source attuned) and only correct about everything. 

   But that's not the real issue for me, the issue is deliberately misleading and/or extra ignorant or limiting sources, which when overly listened too, help to keep people stuck. 

Beau, Beau, if you could only see how many real, nonphysically based Helpers (for an example) or Guidance in general tries to either help steer people clear of these, or try to disentangle them from such influences, and see how much energy they spend on this overwhelming and at times seemingly fruitless task, it might make you stop and ponder a different perspective on this.  But they respect our freewill, and will only try to steer us in the right direction or help in deprogramming limiting beliefs. 

  It takes us to listen, to hook up to the more helpful and aware guidance energies to begin with, and then to follow through on the necessary inner changes and choices.   

  Anyways, Bruce Moen teaches good methods which help out in this whole process.  I think if people stick with practicing such methods that Bruce teaches, they will eventually be ok or much better than that.  Bruce came pretty highly recommended by my guidance, and despite the fact that he is not a He/She type yet.   

recoverer,

"Of course you mean Bruce Moen, not Robert Bruce."

Justin just wrote Bruce at the end of his last post, so it remains to be seen if people flock and worship the right bruce. Since this is one of the bruces' website, here are the other bruces' books:

http://www.glidewing.com/astraldynamics/products_home.html

Happy bruceday!

No, Rondele, please don't switch channels. The other shows are more of the same too. Hmm. Just needs more dirt.

Robert Bruce admits being a liar huckster but then blatantly tries to hide it for all to see:

http://robertbruce.com/