I posted on this site for many years and the interactions, though often contentious, were invaluable in helping me sort out my views on astral projection and the afterlife.  I seldom post now, mainly because over 10 years, I have said almost everything I have to say here.  I do want to ask a question about the Robert Bruce issue.  What does the character of a child molester like Sai Baba have to do with the genuiness of his astral appearance to Robert Bruce?  Psychic gifts need not be a reward for a commendable character.

As an aside, a school psychologist named Craig regularly conducted outstanding children's moments in my church.  Our conversations were generally about projects he could perform to serve the church and make our town a more loving place.  In recent months, he seemed to be growing spiritually in leaps and bounds.  Then the bomb!  He is a serial child molester and is now serving 14 1/2 years in jail for his crimes.  I always sensed that he was keeping something from me, but I never dreamed that it would be child molesting.  Craig was one of the most respected men in our community, very compassionate to anyone who was hurting--but obviously not compassionate towards children.  We lost members when I insisted that we should still try to love Craig.  I visited him weekly in our local jail before he was shipped out to Spokane.  Many were horrifed that I wanted them to sign a birthday card to Craig.   I guess they want his life in jail to be an unrelentling Hell.  That is why I appreciate the desire to perform retrievals on this site.   People who lose their way should have the chance to resume their journey of progress towards pure uncondtional love. 

By the way, I have posted material from my threads about verfications of OBEs and NDEs on a liberal Christian site.  Most liberal Christians think that such experiences have no validity at all.  They even generally dismiss Swedenborg's awesome verifications.  I am realizing that, on issues that matter most to me, I feel more affinities with posters on this site than on Christian sites.  That is a hard thing for a Christian pastor like me to admit.   

Uh, Seraphis, did you really mean, Ecclesiastes.  If so, please provide an example of an OBE allusion there.

I won't take the time to explain once again how Robert Bruce's honesty and integrity become questionable when you consider the entire Sai Baba issue that has been written about.

Regarding his skills, I'm sure there are some demons that have pretty good skills too, but I have no interest in learning of them. If a man will make up a Sai Baba story and then defend Sais' child molesting ways in order to protect his own reputation, I doubt that this man understands about the purity than can be found in a being like Christ.

Justin, you still haven't proven anything.

You claimed:

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Then you pick some quote from RB and you still fail to support your claim:

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So Justin, do you consider that highlights of yours as "defends a known child molester"?

Do you?

What RB in fact states is that most of the allegations against Sai B are basically true.


God Lord!

RB seems to consider most of the allegations basically true!

BASICALLY TRUE!

!!!

If RB doesn't put his words carefully here, I would say that he could get sued.

In my opinion RB says that Sai B is guilty to almost whatever he is accused for!

ALMOST anything!

Is that statement a defense of Sai Baba?!!!!

A DEFENSE???!!   D-E-F-E-N-S-E ? ? ?

Good riddance!


So.

Justin, do you still consider it a "defends a known child molester"?

Well?

Dear longtime friend, Recoverer, perhaps your words would be better taken if you spoke more 'for' the victims and less 'against' the accused. Even your greatest Teacher was put to death on account of the accusations of others, in fact chosen by the people themselves over another. It does happen that those who are accused can be so unjustly. And it does happen that those without a 'voice' are unjustly abused. When one looks at the behavior, and not so much at the 'person', it is easier for all to agree that the behavior must not be repeated. How to accomplish that task is the work of many, but there are also 'many' rivers to cross. When we cross that last river, who will we be? No one can count the good deeds of another while on this earth, nor can they know all of the bad deeds. For this reason, I believe we must be cautious to judge, but swift to protect, for all of our sakes.