Hi, all.
I've read many NDEr's accounts, but I've never found mentions of "seas" or "oceans" .   Lakes, rivers, beautiful meadows, but no one saw a beautiful beach with palms and nice people sunbathing on them...
Do oceans exist in F27? 
Just curious...

Hi

I haven't had an NDE either but I've assumed that the ones I've read about were in a place much higher than FL27.  I'm thinking of the ones where no other beings exist except the Being of Light and the NDE-person, where all knowledge is being revealed in a brief moment, light is bright, etc.

The ocean at the shores of FL 27 is sometimes described as a mist or mist-covered, which seems to imply a dimness .  It seems as Spooky says a sense of ocean perhaps more than an cocean itself. It could be a space provided where rational thought can dissolve. It could encourage a state of mind much like fishing or floating about on a lake does even in physical reality.

So I guess I'm figuring that they needn't be the same at all.

Bets

I believe there are ocean(s), as well as a place I would describe as a bayou, which is misty or foggy in areas. I think, also, that there are swimming pools, some in odd places and conditions. There are certainly rivers and streams. I've encountered nothing frightening in any of these odd pools or flowing water, while exploring. But the 'clarity' of the atmosphere, the quality of the day, varies, in my opinion.

TNX, Beau!

I hope it will be that way here someday soon, Albert.

recoverer wrote on May 13^th, 2010 at 2:54pm:


Sign me up, too.

I think it is true here as well if he collective consciousness is raised and more and more I think that's what 2011-2012 will be about .

What do you mean, Beau, about 2011-2012?

Beau,

May 7th  I got the opportunity to attend a lecture given by Lynn Gardner. Maybe one of you are more familiar with her, she lives in Arizona and has camels as pets. She also gives spiritual development tours to Egypt and other places. I checked her out on the web but couldn't get a clear picture of where she was coming from but since the article mentioned that she had studied with Jean Houston, so I decided to go. I had met Houston a number of years ago, read her autobiography, and admired her work with developing creativity in adults and children.

This Tucson Unity parking lot was jammed and so was the auditorium. As she started to speak, I realized that it would be about her thoughts and predictions re: 2012. Below is what I gleaned from her talk.

Her view of this phase of the Mayan calender ending in 2012 indicated: (1) that we are now going into a period of Purification that will require individuals to start to cooperate with each other to a higher degree than we have before for our continued evolution, (2)we are to use the time starting in July 17-18 to rest, care for ourselves physically and emotionally, and (3) to most of all place the intention to be of service to others as our typical earth changes speed up including increased activity under the Arctic Circle. 

She stressed that all earth activities are just how the planet has always operated and that the Mayan calender merely reports or provides the history of our spiritual evolution up to the year 5,000+ something. Any actual earth change predictions, including some that she gave for this area and changes in our oceans, were her own and subject to change. 

Anyhow, this was my take on her lecture and my NDE experience was more about meeting with others nonphysically to be of service down here. And I got the impression that Bruce's water adventures out there were training sessions aimed at helping him to get a feel for operating in the non physical medium.

Jean

Maybe so Beau.

Jean