God used hitler to punish mankind for greed,and not helping the poor.Where much is given,much is required.George

Yeah those two guys were a couple of real characters.

Yes,That could be.Did you watch tv lateley,and all the F words they use.The world is becoming an evil place to live.Could be that it is causing stock markets to fall over the world.man must change his ways and clean up it acts.

I confess. The other day I was down south aways, and I was walking into a department store to find a wayward relative who had to get a quick 10 minute 'shop' into the day. I rushed forward toward the automatic doors and tripped over the curb and stubbed my toe while continuing to rush forward, loudly cursing, and like a sailor, I might add. As I looked up I was walking right into the faces of a few toddlers who stared at me with open mouths, as if to say, what is this world coming to? Maybe you're right, George, maybe you're right.

Hitler was very psycric when he was young.he used to meditate a lot.he joyind the in the first world war.He was in a trench with other germans eating.than he heard a voice telling him to move and go around the end of the trench.as he sat down.he heard a boom go off.He got up and looked in where he had been,and saw all his friends had been killed.

What do you think George..Is that preacher and his congregation who protest at the funerals of dead soldiers, saying that God hates them, and that they are fags and stuff..is he right?

Hawkeye,God dose not hate them.They are well looked after they die,both sides.

I am not a bundle of sticks, so I take no offence at the "f*g" remark. Nor Am I a cigarette, but I may have one as it's been a long day.

I love that Albert, very nice. I do the same thing when I look out of an airplane or a car.

yeah, right and my girlfriend says I don't appreciate beauty of nature but the beauty of the people is overwhelming sometimes.

Quote Recoverer:
"I guess God loves us enough so we have free will."

I guess God loves us enough to have given us cause and effect. If cause and effect is an illusion, then there's only the moment, and then, when there is no past, no future, there is freedom. But it's not "free will", as there would be no person then (since a person is history dependant), and no will (as well history dependant).

Just a reminder.

Spooky

Spooky:

I figure we act according to what we know. For example, a person will choose a negative way of life because he doesn't understand that a life based on love is much more preferable. Once he (his soul) reaches the point where he understands that a love based approach is preferable, he'll make a comparison and choose accordingly.

I figure it's okay if a particular circumstance involves a limited amount of data that determines a limited number of possibilities, as long as I'm not attached to any of the data in a way that prevents me from considering all of the data in a wise way.

I believe what truly matters is that we find a way of existence where we can be truly happy for the rest of eternity. I figure that love and peace will be amongst the data that make a truly worthwhile eternal existence possible.

It doesn't matter if possibilities other than the data I'm dealing with exist, because the zen thing to do is to drink water when you drink water, without worrying about things that have nothing to do with what you're doing. After all, life is an experience, not an intellectual exercise.

On the one hand all of time happens simultaneously. On the other hand, a chronological order exists. For example, I couldn't write my response to your post until "after" you wrote it.

I figure that the only way God could allow us to have free will is to allow us to find out how to have it in our own way, rather than downloading a program into us that already has all of the answers. With his approach we have to take some lumps along the way, but at least ways we find our way more and more as we free ourselves from the lesson plan that initially binds us but eventually helps us become wiser. I say this with the thought that we can't find out what the creative possibilities are, without getting involved with them.

Perhaps this is a better choice than sticking to pure awareness and denying what the creative aspect of our being has to offer. It leads up to many beautiful and wonderful things, including beings who love each other.






spooky2 wrote on May 4^th, 2010 at 9:32pm:

I think he is assigned a character to play on this stage and unless he can remember that he is also the actor he wrecks havoc on the whole world. There are a lot of prime examples of this not just SHitler.

Hitler was a character too who was not real in touch with his higher self, I guess. I guess he didn't make the jump from Monkey to man with the rest of us.

The people that followed Hitler were afraid. They were afraid of Hitler, they were afraid of Jews, and they were afraid of being different. Therefore, due to fear, they all "conformed" and did terrible things.

The people that stood up to fear and refused were rewarded....

with death.

Those that stood up were afraid, but they knew that they had to stand up and fight that fear. Sadly, many chose to instead let the fear lead them and control them, giving themselves to the fear. Doing great evil.

Yes, and it hasn't changed much. So we have to be watchful. Not only watchful about "the society", but as well about ourself.

Spooky

Bush will get his yet and Cheney, Lord knows he's over.