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Reply #15 - May 3rd, 2010 at 6:11pm
 
I guess God loves us enough so we have free will.  It is a matter of us learning to use it in a wise and loving way.

Regarding purification of the human race, in a sense, isn't this what changes are about? Some sources state that people who can't handle the increased vibrational rate will be removed from this earth in some way.

In some ways, this seems like a good idea.

When I look out the window of an airplane, I wonder how many people below have to suffer in some way, because there are many people who don't care about anybody but me, myself, and I. Perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to harm others and moved elsewhere.

It would be nice to be able to look out of an airplane window and regardless of what the scenery looks like, know that everybody is happy and treated with love and respect.
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Reply #16 - May 4th, 2010 at 3:58am
 
I love that Albert, very nice. I do the same thing when I look out of an airplane or a car.
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Reply #17 - May 4th, 2010 at 2:35pm
 
Beau:

I basically do so when I travel to another place. What's going on for the people is more important than what the scenery looks like.


Beau wrote on May 4th, 2010 at 3:58am:
I love that Albert, very nice. I do the same thing when I look out of an airplane or a car.

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Reply #18 - May 4th, 2010 at 3:29pm
 
yeah, right and my girlfriend says I don't appreciate beauty of nature but the beauty of the people is overwhelming sometimes.
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Reply #19 - May 4th, 2010 at 7:48pm
 
Hitler is a perfect example of fear. Hitler was afraid of everyone and everything. Everyone became his enemy. If you let fear rule and control you.... everything that you are will come to disaster during your human life.
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Reply #20 - May 4th, 2010 at 9:32pm
 
Quote Recoverer:
"I guess God loves us enough so we have free will."

I guess God loves us enough to have given us cause and effect. If cause and effect is an illusion, then there's only the moment, and then, when there is no past, no future, there is freedom. But it's not "free will", as there would be no person then (since a person is history dependant), and no will (as well history dependant).

Just a reminder.

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Reply #21 - May 4th, 2010 at 10:35pm
 
Hmmm...I gotta think that one through spooky. Pretty good. Maybe not.
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Reply #22 - May 5th, 2010 at 1:27pm
 
Spooky:

I figure we act according to what we know. For example, a person will choose a negative way of life because he doesn't understand that a life based on love is much more preferable. Once he (his soul) reaches the point where he understands that a love based approach is preferable, he'll make a comparison and choose accordingly.

I figure it's okay if a particular circumstance involves a limited amount of data that determines a limited number of possibilities, as long as I'm not attached to any of the data in a way that prevents me from considering all of the data in a wise way.

I believe what truly matters is that we find a way of existence where we can be truly happy for the rest of eternity. I figure that love and peace will be amongst the data that make a truly worthwhile eternal existence possible.

It doesn't matter if possibilities other than the data I'm dealing with exist, because the zen thing to do is to drink water when you drink water, without worrying about things that have nothing to do with what you're doing. After all, life is an experience, not an intellectual exercise.

On the one hand all of time happens simultaneously. On the other hand, a chronological order exists. For example, I couldn't write my response to your post until "after" you wrote it.

I figure that the only way God could allow us to have free will is to allow us to find out how to have it in our own way, rather than downloading a program into us that already has all of the answers. With his approach we have to take some lumps along the way, but at least ways we find our way more and more as we free ourselves from the lesson plan that initially binds us but eventually helps us become wiser. I say this with the thought that we can't find out what the creative possibilities are, without getting involved with them.

Perhaps this is a better choice than sticking to pure awareness and denying what the creative aspect of our being has to offer. It leads up to many beautiful and wonderful things, including beings who love each other.






spooky2 wrote on May 4th, 2010 at 9:32pm:
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"I guess God loves us enough so we have free will."

I guess God loves us enough to have given us cause and effect. If cause and effect is an illusion, then there's only the moment, and then, when there is no past, no future, there is freedom. But it's not "free will", as there would be no person then (since a person is history dependant), and no will (as well history dependant).

Just a reminder.

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Reply #23 - May 5th, 2010 at 4:17pm
 
What does one do about all those who supported him, ignored him, directly or indirectly allowed him to get away with mayhem?? Shocked

Or what does one do about those who deny the holocaust?? Cry

Since it's possible that indeed we are all one, what did/do we learn? Undecided

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Reply #24 - May 5th, 2010 at 5:22pm
 
I think he is assigned a character to play on this stage and unless he can remember that he is also the actor he wrecks havoc on the whole world. There are a lot of prime examples of this not just SHitler.
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Reply #25 - May 6th, 2010 at 7:39am
 
Jean wrote on May 5th, 2010 at 4:17pm:
What does one do about all those who supported him, ignored him, directly or indirectly allowed him to get away with mayhem?? Shocked

Understand them. Understand that 'they' are us. Understand that it is in our nature to be naive, indifferent, careless followers of what is false.

Or what does one do about those who deny the holocaust?? Cry

Understand that it is difficult to look at the truth.

Since it's possible that indeed we are all one, what did/do we learn? Undecided

That personal freedom is our only choice.

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Reply #26 - May 6th, 2010 at 9:01am
 
Hitler was a character too who was not real in touch with his higher self, I guess. I guess he didn't make the jump from Monkey to man with the rest of us.
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Reply #27 - May 6th, 2010 at 9:33am
 
b2,

Amen, Amen, Amen.

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Reply #28 - May 6th, 2010 at 3:55pm
 
The people that followed Hitler were afraid. They were afraid of Hitler, they were afraid of Jews, and they were afraid of being different. Therefore, due to fear, they all "conformed" and did terrible things.

The people that stood up to fear and refused were rewarded....

with death.

Those that stood up were afraid, but they knew that they had to stand up and fight that fear. Sadly, many chose to instead let the fear lead them and control them, giving themselves to the fear. Doing great evil.
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Reply #29 - May 6th, 2010 at 6:13pm
 
yes, the pack mentality of humanity is a very scary thing sometimes, J.
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