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God ad I perceive him
Mar 12^th, 2010 at 6:21am

THE EXISTING ONE
Aware of infinite potential in vast unplowed fields of nothing, I strode the great steps of cosmic light toward the infinite horizon of eternity, sowing seeds of existence before the timeless moment of creation.

I am the boundless Mind, Original Self-Awareness the cause of everything, relative to nothing I am This. On the panorama of bleak blackness, I rode on the back of the Absolute, sowing universal energy. Reality was my aim and the beauty of my achievement. Illuminating the darkness with beams of dazzling radiant glory was the first event of reason. I formulated in my mind the first number and called it ‘one,

With the realities of fundamentals ‘one, and ‘zero, I made everything. I am the Prime Mover and there was no proponent to my First Cause. I am the Immovable Rock, the uncaused cause the alpha point and first principal. I took the prime numbers and weaved them into the fabric of the reality creating all the limitless universes, which make up existence. Indeed, I am the almighty One. If you are, wise. ‘Do one thing, fear me the Lord.

I am the painter and the painting, singer and the song, the dance and the dancer, the stage and the actors, the writer of the script of existence. I am all these things who am I? I am Ultimate-All the Absolute Totally of all existence, yes, I am This, and do you exist? Then why cant to I exist?. The imprudent ask where you are, the wind blows on your cheek and you ask ‘where are you? The oceans roar and you ask,’ ‘where are you? The stars glow and you say mysterious one, ‘if you would only show, blood flows in your vessels and you say ‘what are you?

I am the encompasser and enfold all things within the substance of my being. Resonating with profound unfathomable vibrations, creation trembles at the passing of my presence.

I am the stalker of the soul, the defeater of death. I am supreme and take the abstract, and convert it into concrete matter.

I dwell now in the breath of my life, which is composite bright light, looking with delight upon the beauty of the garden of my creation, sparkling out of the darkness of infinite universes.

I am well pleased with my endeavors and set the clock of time to run for eternity.

I AM LIFE

I am the winder of the watch of creation. ‘I Am He,

Composed By Alan McDougall (27/6/2007)

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Reply #1 - Mar 12^th, 2010 at 6:41am

More puzzling aspects of God

If God is omni benevolent and all-powerful, why is there evil and suffering?

If God is omnipotent (all-powerful, able to do anything), omni- benevolent (all loving) and omniscient (all knowing).

The problem is this: our world contains vast amounts of suffering, much of which seems either entirely unnecessary or unnecessarily severe. Although some of this is the result of evil human action, and thus may be seen as an inevitable consequence of human free will, much is not. Plagues floods and famines and is not all the result of human action. Even the idea that human free will explains the existence of much suffering is hard to accept, since God, if all-powerful, could He not have limited our capacity to harm others?

So why is there all this suffering? If God cannot prevent it,
it would seem he is not all-powerful. If God does not want to stop it, it would seem he is not all loving. If God does not know about it, he cannot be all knowing.
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Is God constrained by his goodness[/u]?

If God is omnipotent (all-powerful, able to do anything), omni- benevolent (all loving) and a perfectly free agent (Sovereign).

God could choose whatever he wants. Nothing could stop this because God is omnipotent.

Nevertheless, if God is also all-loving. It seems that such a God could never choose to do something, which is unloving. It is not that God just chooses not to do such things, rather that God's nature as omni- benevolent constrains what he can do. In other words, God does not have the freedom and/or the power to do something unloving, an if this is the case he can not be Sovereign

One possible response is that God is not necessarily omni- benevolent, but, in fact, since he never chooses to do something, which is unloving. However, if this is true, then how omni- benevolence can be a necessary characteristic of a God. Perhaps God can do literally anything. (Sovereign)

God the sustainer?

Is God the sustainer of all that is? This means that if God ceased to exist so would everything else.
It hard to model God on our universe. The laws of physics do not seem to require that the universe have anything outside of itself to continue to exist. Therefore, they can't quite see what kind of evidence it would be possible to point to in order to come to the belief that God is required for the universe to continue.

When they have previously confronted this problem, it has been suggested that a lawgiver or law-enforcer is required in order to sustain the laws of physics. But, this response seems to rest on a misunderstanding of the nature of physical laws. Laws in the legal sense do require lawgivers and law-enforcers. Nevertheless, physical laws are simply descriptions of the nature of reality. Therefore, the idea that a lawgiver is needed to sustain the rules of physics seems to confuse the legal and scientific senses of laws.

The personal God

It is hard to understand how, God, one can have a personal relationship with him.

Personal relationships appear to depend on a number of things. Sufficient similarity between the persons in the relationship is one. Another is that both are persons or are, at least, person-like as some higher primates, for example appear to be. The problem is that in our universe there seem to be no genuine personal relationships between things of great difference. God is vastly different from human beings.

People can have feelings for things, which are similar to those, they have towards people. Affection or love for places or objects, for example, is common. However, this is not the same as having a personal relationship with them. In a similar way, people have relationships with animals, maybe a cat. Nevertheless, this does not seem to be the same as a personal relationship, because of the great difference in the way the person relates to the animal and the way the animal relates to the person. Perhaps this is the kind of relationship envisaged with God

Can God do the illogical?

What does one mean when they God is able to do anything?
In the model, Can God to make 2 + 2 = 5? (Where all the terms hold their common meanings). He could not do so and the model broke down. It seems that no being can ever do what is logically impossible. It is not just beyond the wit of humanity to make 2 + 2 = 5, such a thing is a contradiction in terms.

So to understand that an all-powerful that God can do anything is illogical. Before accepting this, however, you should understand that by accepting the limits of logical possibility on God, one must leave open the possibility that, if some characteristics attributed to God turn out to entail logical contradictions, It means, in effect, accepting that rationality is a constraint on God The bible says nothing is impossible with God. Could God destroy himself or could God make a rock too heavy for him to lift as examples?

Why did God create our universe?

If God is omnipotent (all-powerful, able to do anything), omni_ benevolent (all loving), omniscient (all knowing) and the creator of all that exists we run into a problem.
When your God created the universe, being all-knowing, he must have known about all the suffering there would be in this world. Yet God still created it, as it is.

He did not create a more benign version of the universe, or simply choose not to create the universe. Why is this?
It could be that God did not know about all the suffering, which would occur. Nevertheless, that would make God not all knowing. It could be that God does not mind all the suffering, but that would make him less than all loving. It could be that God could not have created a more benign world than this one. However, that would seem to make God less than all-powerful. The only way we can resolve this problem is to conclude that God can only do what is possible and that this really is the best of all possible worlds. The bible says nothing is impossible with God and I have approached these vexing problems with my own puny finite mind.

God exists eternally.

God exists through all space and time. However, according to our best physics, space and time exist only within the confines of a universe. This would seem to constrain God's existence to within a universe.

Maybe God exists "outside" space and time. It hard to understand what is meant by “eternally", if that is the case. The concept "eternally" requires some notion of time to make sense. I remain puzzled over these issues

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Reply #2 - Mar 12^th, 2010 at 6:51am

Guys before I really start the actual altered state of consciousness that I must go into to remote view with any accuracy I felt a strong urge to post the last few posts as I feel or know that you folk are thinking about it also.

Note what I posted comes from my own protracted search for truth just like the search for truth that each and everyone on the forum is doing

Soul Mates

How do we recognize our soul mates? The best way is to improve our own soul quality in order for our mates to appear. That means we would recognize the soul in the person. When we meet a soul mate, there is an instant liking.

Then as we come to know him or her better, we find that there is agreement in things that are important. Our attitude toward life situations is the same, although our interests may be different.

The quality of our soul level is very similar: we have compassion, empathy, and realize that the purpose of life is to let go. There is no jealousy arising, and the harmony and love that are flowing to and fro would make us happy in each other’s presence.

The love energy between two soul mates can only be surpassed by the love between twin souls. Whilst the love of twin souls is always with the opposite, sex that of soul mates can be with both.

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usetawuz Senior Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 397 ne fla Gender:	Re: God ad I perceive him Reply #3 - Mar 12^th, 2010 at 10:06am Once again, Alan, I appreciate your contributions and you never cease to give me pause...
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detheridge Full Member Offline Posts: 165 Malvern, Worcs, U.K. Gender:	Re: God ad I perceive him Reply #4 - Mar 12^th, 2010 at 11:49am Is God really a he? I thought the common concensus had developed of a benevolent mother-father God rather than the old paranoid git of fundamentalist tendencies in the bible. Still, it's all up for discussion. Best wishes, David.
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Reply #5 - Mar 12^th, 2010 at 2:36pm

detheridge wrote on Mar 12^th, 2010 at 11:49am:

Is God really a he?
I thought the common concensus had developed of a benevolent mother-father God rather than the old paranoid git of fundamentalist tendencies in the bible.
Still, it's all up for discussion.

Best wishes,
David.

David of course God has no gender God is the source of everything, I only used HE because most people, due to the influence that religion has placed on them, to use the word HE for the Deity

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Reply #6 - Mar 13^th, 2010 at 7:05pm

I have a thought/theory on why god would have made this world and life with suffering...because this is all a test. There are good and bad things here, but this earth and realm is "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" as I will use an analogy for it. What could we possibly learn and understand if everything was easy and great before we died? That would make things too simple. The point of this life is testament to our souls and our own judgment to decide what we will do in the life after death.

I also have a theory about the "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" concept that "evolution" is actually God's creation in allowing things to change over time without his direct influence. He creates and then lets it go from there. People don't die because it was God's decision. It just happens. But they aren't cheated because in death they will find a better world and a better life. Also imagine that every plane of the Afterlife was once a living world much like Earth which evolved to the point of being a paradise.

Now imagine that the idea is for Earth to one day be one of these realms, though very very far from it in earth years because that evolution to becoming a paradise takes so much time. Once Earth has reached that potential perhaps a new world will begin, and maybe this is the power and the will of the universe.

It's a theory. I can usually find theoretical answers to most questions, as I also believe true knowledge can only be achieved in death.

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Reply #7 - Mar 14^th, 2010 at 2:37am

Stone,

You might try comparing your theories about creation, god and what it's all about to those of Thomas Campbell in "My Big TOE". Big book, but it covers everything, as in "My Big Theory of Everything." Campbell is a physicist who worked closely with Bob Monroe when he, Campbell, was a graduate student, doing lots of OOBE and altered states of consciousness exploration without drugs of any kind.

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Reply #8 - Mar 14^th, 2010 at 2:53am

StoneColdTrue wrote on Mar 13^th, 2010 at 7:05pm:

I have a thought/theory on why god would have made this world and life with suffering...because this is all a test. There are good and bad things here, but this earth and realm is "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" as I will use an analogy for it. What could we possibly learn and understand if everything was easy and great before we died? That would make things too simple. The point of this life is testament to our souls and our own judgment to decide what we will do in the life after death.

I also have a theory about the "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" concept that "evolution" is actually God's creation in allowing things to change over time without his direct influence. He creates and then lets it go from there. People don't die because it was God's decision. It just happens. But they aren't cheated because in death they will find a better world and a better life. Also imagine that every plane of the Afterlife was once a living world much like Earth which evolved to the point of being a paradise.

Now imagine that the idea is for Earth to one day be one of these realms, though very very far from it in earth years because that evolution to becoming a paradise takes so much time. Once Earth has reached that potential perhaps a new world will begin, and maybe this is the power and the will of the universe.

It's a theory. I can usually find theoretical answers to most questions, as I also believe true knowledge can only be achieved in death.

I really like the idea of under construction , thus god drives creation or evolution by experimenting with it

I use the term Intelligent Designer and am am in god company with the theory of an intelligent Designer. Albert Einstein believes in an Intelligent Designer

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Reply #9 - Mar 14^th, 2010 at 8:13am

My perception of God, heaven , hell and the Bible

Please guys note this post is not directed at anyone on this forum but is an edited version of a thread I started on another forum that might be of interest here.

This primordial Mind had to do something, it had to Think and to find words from which to begin creation. "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was GOD John verse 1 = Jesus the first Being " indeed he is the Word of God" The second person of the triune God

Endure forever, infinite, eternal are concepts that make no sense when they are linked to linear time we inhabit as three dimensional mortal beings. I perceive God as that which exists in a place that Jesus said was heaven “Our Father who is in heaven” God is also unlike us in that he inhabits infinite dimensions.

Thus heaven is somewhere else, not the universe. God must endure as you said from a platform of what I call the every changing NOW.

He must observe everything that has happened, that is happening will happen in the future. I am the Alpha the Omega, the First and the Last, He that was and is and is to come. This gives credence to my suggestion that God endures as the One who IS IS.

Using an analogy of a disturbance in a village involving the actions of running rampant around in the streets doing something.

A helicopter flies over the village and the observers in it can see the whole event in one time frame, from that observer platform.

The Bible says the Eye of God roams the earth seeking out what people are doing. God exist in what I call the Great Observer platform, observing all creations as one ever changing event.

The Observer Platform is Gods Holy Spirit, is it not he that now persuades man that he is in need of redemption. I know this is a very technical view but it is the best I can do as a Mechanical Engineer who has some understanding of Biblical truths

Another possibility is God observes everything like an unraveled movie reel frame by frame. Is this is true then he could see the whole picture of his creation, indeed from Alpha until the end of time Omega. This might sound a little silly, but after all creation is Gods movie is it not. The error with this idea is that it does not really allow for free will. The Calvinist will like this idea I think.

Of course using this analogy God could cut, edit and splice this huge creation movie, so that it does not take away free will.

Now to finite little me for an infinite being like God to torment my by burning me in molten sulfur day and night forever and ever is a little harsh don't you think?

I am only able to commit a puny finite sin against this huge colossal infinite being and due to this finite sin, I read in the Bible and her from fundamentalist that I will be given an infinite punishment in Hell.

Of course if I change my evil ways and conform then I will go to heaven, even though I remain guilty of my transgression

I wonder it even the worst psychopath would do that to me. So I allow myself to question the logic of the Bible.

If the writer of the Book of Revelation was examined by a psychiatrist today, sprouting, locust with fiery stings in they tails, horses racing across sting people but not allowing them to die, the world bringing doom, angels pouring out veils of blood, great beasts and dragons killing and eating people.

Heck!! heck!! people he would be put on antipsychotic medicine, given shock treatment, confined for life to a mental faculty and that would be the last of him

But no people dig, search, interpret and try to understand the science fiction like visions of fantasy in the Book of Revelations written 2000 years ago by a possibly very sick first century man living alone in a cave.

Why God does not speak and convey exactly in human terms what he means, but supposedly hiding it in poetry language and unconceivable incomprehensible visions, continues to perplex and it just makes no sense to me.

But I acknowledge I could be wrong so I pray to god if there is a god to save my soul if I have a soul

Just kidding guys a little deep sarcasm by a person who has been around the block a few too times.

My problem is the Bible and how the Bible was written and by whom. And the countless different interpretation, over a hundred different translation in the English language alone.

But God as I perceive him is warm, loving, kind and forgiving but we must have deep respect for him because like. I previously stated he/she is not some weak grey haired granny or grandpa

God is light in which there is no darkness whatsoever. So existence is divided into light and dark realms and we are free to choose to which we would like to inhabit when we die.

It is true that if God is made out of the same energy that drives and sustains the universe then he just like all energy and matter is subject to the relentless flow of entropy. If this is true then he is not infinite and must be dissipating his life energy into some huge heat sink. Maybe that is why the Bible stated that God in light and in him is no darkness what so ever

My take about God is that he/she not being constructed out of the same energy of the universe but some non-energetic pure light . that strange thing referred to as SPIRIT

Of course from my present very finite vantage point I cannot know the truth about what is now simply beyond human comprehension.

"You know physicist hate the concept of infinity" It is a misnomer a paradox inside an enigma an oxymoron. Something that must be but at the same time simply cant be. An impossible possibility if you get my drift

Gods "I AM" statement to Moses at the burring bush equated to “one who exists.

Remember the famous statement of Descartes, “I think therefore "I AM”. This was to prove to himself using logic that “INDEED HE EXISTED”

Now all this singing and praising of god with loud voices and instruments in church. Is it really really accompanied with a deep felt love for God respect and commitment for his awesome Divinity? No most of them are just taking pride in how beautiful they sing, it is all about competition. Like Bruce Moen, I have searched for God and meaning in many Christian denominations at one stage became a rapid fundamentalist condemning the rest of humanity to hell, with some glee I might add.

But that is a long long time ago and thank God with these grey hairs of wisdom I now know God loves all of humanity, not just a select few. Indeed I have reached the position of despising exclusivity in all its bizarre forms

I have stood in many churches, some full of love and warmth, others just loud noise and madness or as cold as a graveyard. The TV evangelist shouting at the world extorting corrupt thieves, stealing money from the innocent makes my stomach turn.

You just like the rest of humanity I know almost nothing about this Infinite Entity we gave the title God. To assume we do is to fall into the trap of being puffed up with false speculative knowledge.

I really think no one can claim correct knowledge about the Infinite . "

Your idea is just as valid as any person and God is the God of your understanding"

What really angers me if with I hear puffed up so call experts pontificating that God, will god will do this if you did that, god is this god is that, this pleases god that does not, give to god and he will reward you a hundred fold

God is who he is and he IS and will act and react exactly as he/she wants to, without asking our permission. He is the boss and the buck of accountability stops with him

We are finite beings (at present) and God is infinite, so, therefore we must be much closer to a cockroach than to God the Infinite.

So I dismiss anyone telling me like Don does that God is thus. He is beyond human comprehension and we can only comprehend what he allows us to comprehend.

I see all human ideas about God and exactly who is really is as just subjective speculation.. Of course we all have a grasp of minor truths about existence and how it came to be.

"My problem is with the Bible not Almighty God"

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Reply #10 - Mar 14^th, 2010 at 10:00am

This is a very nice post here this last one, Alan. I would have to only say that something may seem infinite to us because we cannot see its end, but that does not mean it is truly infinite. But does it really matter? Relatively Infinite would be a fine way to express it I would think. Especially if some physicists are correct in their theory that we are one of many many universes ...well, I'm still at the "who knows?" aspect of creation myself. I enjoyed reading your post.

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