Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2010 at 6:15pm:


There were two movies with themes like this: Kind Hearts and Coronets (a black comedy) in which the Alec Guiness plays a noble who is about eighth in line for a Dukedom… he proceeds to eliminate each one by some unfortunate accident that he arranges.  I remember finding this a very funny film.

But, with ‘I Claudius’ I was extremely disturbed by the author Robert Graves strong case (albeit fictionally) for a historical suspicion of authorities that Olivia… Octavius’s (better known to the world as Augustus Caesar) wife skillfully arranged for the removal by death of all of the individuals who might have prevented her son Tiberius’ succession. In that time there was a struggle for power between the monarchist and the Republicans. Olivia won and Rome never returned to a true representative elected government.

I remember being deeply disturbed by Olivia’s murderous plots.

When I discovered something about my past it cleared a dark part of that past which I now am free of… but, now I know why 'I Claudius' and Olivia’s murderous designs were so disturbing… at some subconscious level I knew I would have to face in a series of future lives in which just such a thing would inevitably happen to me… karmic retribution for acts similar to Olivia’s.

There is an old saying amongst reincarnationists.  The things that disturb you in movies or in the lives of people in the world around you are things you yourself will have to go through eventually. The things you can have deep sympathy for in the lives of people in the world around you are things you yourself have already experienced.

Either betson or b2 in some long forgotten thread said they remembered some kind of betrayal they had perpetrated against their friends either in the ww1 or ww2 and they didn’t want to remember it. Unfortunately, the more meditation you do and the deeper you get the more likely it will be that the mind will present you with the events in symbolic or actual form for you to deal with.

The truth is that the linear world we call ‘the present’ is an illusion… but, this illusion is created by belief systems… those belief systems create our ‘future’ … thus if you believe you did something bad… because of the nature of cause and effect… you also believe you must be punished for that bad act… it is part of the pairs of opposites that make the illusion possible…

So everything you can do to discover what your underling belief structures are puts you just one step closer to control of your destiny in the illusion… so let this thread be a step in discovering what beliefs structures underlie the positional-ity you are holding by posting things that bother you in certain movies.

The act of looking at things that disturb or bother you in the environment helps bring them up in meditation there to be dissolved in understanding or love.

S.

Seraphis, you said: The act of looking at things that disturb or bother you in the environment helps bring them up in meditation there to be dissolved in understanding or love.
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So, if you are disturbed by war, and you are in a war, how does this work? How does war dissolve in understanding or love, through meditation? When you are confronted by an 'enemy' - when you are put on the spot - how do you meditate then? How do you find a love powerful enough to move through this kind of unreality?

detheridge wrote on Mar 11^th, 2010 at 5:23am:


Hi detheridge: These are rules of thumb... I am not sure of this but the things that give you joy, etc... are pointing to your hopes and asperations for your future emotional and spiritual evolution... is my guess... what are your goals?? Mine is spiritual freedom... others might be becoming a space traveler... which will require future incarnations and is certainly possible... but, I personally am leaving the physical plane... in the... Monrovian... escape velocity paradigm... therefore I need to dissolve my demons and phantoms...

S.

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Hi B2: The looking at things is something that happens in meditation or whatever inner exploration you do… these things come up.

If you find yourself in a physical plane war then that is a karmic event that one deals with in present time… love thy enemy equally with thy friend… that is the path for the spiritual seeker… even tho you may have to engage in self defense do it with love… and forgiveness… Jesus said… ‘… forgive them for they know not what they do…’ … my sense is this… if you are on the spiritual path… you become a presence… I think I was destined to get to this place I am now… when I was a teen… I was walking down a street when several cars pulled up just ahead of me… boys piled out and confronted each other and where about to have a gang fight… I kept walking through them… as they shouted at each other … I simple kept walking… I never looked back… that was the presence… it shielded me because I had something big to do in the future… I know that now but not at the time…

The prescense will protect you so long as you are executing the mission of your Oversoul plan…

If you are on the spiritual path you have power… power will overcome force every time… trust your oversoul!

S.

spooky2 wrote on Mar 12^th, 2010 at 11:13pm:


Hi Spooky: I've had a meeting of the minds with Dr. David Hawkins' work... he discuss' this very subject. It doesn't matter how you go about operating in the physical plane as long as you do it with love, consideration and kindness... Love/God, manifest/unmanifest... permeates everything all the time... when you choose to be free and function in the world but not of the world or withdraw from the world as long as you get between the past and the future in the transition phase you will be free... but, Monrovians have a different path.

S.