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Mar 3^rd, 2010 at 9:47pm

Mythological Symbolism:

I posted this in the Re: Evil Thread. Well I found another experiential potential ‘mythological symbol’ that could help unravel some cryptic texts when the ancient writers refers to a ‘Great River’.

Seraphis1 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2010 at 4:31pm:

I am posting this because most of you who have done BM’s AKG, Robert Bruce’s – energy work, or TMI work will have experienced The Crown of Thorns and didn’t make the association… I made the association but until recently did not put it all together.

I first encountered The Crown of Thorns when I did RB’s energy work… when I was doing one of the exercises, I felt this intense pressure in my cranial area, that began to differentiate into a series of gripping sensations around my forehead and I remember thinking… wow!! This is The Crown of Thorns… but, until I stumbled upon some material on the unfoldment of the Crown Chakra I didn’t put it all together… therefore, this posting is a meeting of the minds of several other researchers and writers.

S.

I posted this in The Book Club pages - The Afterlife Knowledge Guidebook - projecting love energy exercise:

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2010 at 11:32pm:

3/2/10 - morning session:[quote author=5B6D7A697860617B39080 link=1266360967/11#11 date=1267587159]3/2/10 - morning session:

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Projecting Love Energy Exercise:

Solar plexus chakra loosing up… helicopters… gathered around preparing for take off… (material deleted) it seems now some attention is going back to dealing with the right side and left brain… after months of work on right brain… light… (session aborted by housekeepers)… continued… heart chakra attempting to kick in… sky…(material deleted) Pressure on my chest… clear a new heart chakra event… the pressure goes deep to the 4 or 5th thoracic vertebra… first time I am aware of a flowing river of energy up the spinal/central channel?? Energy cocoon differentiating??? … I want spiritual freedom for everyone… even Adolph Hitler… there is a little hitler in all of us… forgive hitler, forgive myself, forgive the world, forgiveness for past actions… aware of the river of energy flowing from above… sparkling radiant energy… right side ribcage… I am aware of the universe… see stars… blackness of space… constellations… right side active… see Robert Monroe, nancy penn Monroe, laurie Monroe… I am saved… mob scene… French revolution, robs pierre, napoleon all on the right side. (comment: Left Brain controls the right side events… the materialistic mind.)

This is a major change of direction. The French Revolution is back and I guess there is more to resolve for me here… it involves love and projection of love…

S.

Now, what we have here is this flowing rushing ‘river of energy’ this is the first time I’ve become aware of it at all… and this suggest to me that when in mythological writings one encounters references to a …Great River… I suspect this is what they are referring to… In the Bible there are four rivers dividing off a Great River…

I am not yet sensitive enough to know this for sure but, there are two great channels in the human body… the central channel which sits in front of the spinal column (the physical body)… in the astral body it is the Shusumna… I don‘t know which of these channels the energy was flowing through. But, it was like a Great Rushing River.

Since I am conversant with Biblical lore I suspect the rushing River of Energy I am experiencing is The Jordan River. At this point, I started by becoming aware of a cocoon of energy… then it differentiated… what is the next step… I think if the Biblical writers have laid down a symbolical path what will happen is I will become aware of The River Jordan dividing into four branches… is this the FOUR cerebrospinal ventricles entering the brain… The kingdom of God in within you… branching off from this river, and the Bible says that EDEN had FOUR Rivers running out of it. So I should enter Eden… I.e.. The Pineal Gland where there will be an explosion of Divine Light… I have been having during these exercises flashes of Light… I have seen a horizon with light rising below it… I am very excited and grateful to the loving God who created this Universe and has led me to the threshold of His kingdom… with all my heart I wish for the Grace to enter His Kingdom… which is within…

Let him who has eyes to see… let him see! Him who has ears to hear… let him hear!

S.

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Reply #1 - Mar 4^th, 2010 at 5:22pm

I am posting this here because I am very confused... this is a major break through and I don't know how to proceed.

1. Should I be a gradualist and take it slow and easy. Or is this conservative approach exactly the wrong thing.

2. If I am aggressive and push to the edge of endurance do I rise to another level of ability and skill or do I burn up and court disaster... this is dangerous stuff... Awakening Kundalini in the wrong way can cause serious damage to the psyche.

But if you don't press an advantage you risk losing the initiative... I need some feed back here. So I humbly ask your help.

"Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.

Analysis of important symbolism in the session.

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2010 at 12:47pm:

3/4/10 - morning session:

Projecting Love Energy Exercise:

…Victorian box lamp nestled in a kind of pillow like formation… cream color glow… on right side… thick white milk splattered over a bowl..

My analysis of this last part is that the pineal is attempting to bring the light in… but, I am not ready for the level of radiation the real thing would expose me to… thus the white milk splatter over a bowl…

[highlight]Ecclesiastes 12:6New American Standard Bible (©1995)

Remember Him before the silver cord is broken and the golden bowl is crushed, the pitcher by the well is shattered and the wheel at the cistern is crushed;[/highlight]

S.

[highlight]The pineal gland is reddish-gray and about the size of a grain of rice (5-8 mm) in humans, located just rostro-dorsal to the superior colliculus and behind and beneath the stria medullaris, between the laterally positioned thalamic bodies. It is part of the epithalamus.

The pineal gland is a midline structure, and is often seen in plain skull X-rays, as it is often calcified.[/highlight]

The above description suggest that the Pineal gland fits snuggly in a cushion of surrounding organs and tissue… like a pillow… especially …laterally positioned thalamic bodies…

Note in my visual image… Victorian box lamp nestled in a kind of pillow like formation…

That is trying to tell me something about where I am at in the exercise… I think the Pineal is activated to the extent that I can safely experience it… the full experience would be an explosion of Divine Light… if that would happen prematurely… I would probably become a babbling idiot… so this gradual and systematic exposure is acclimatizing me in preparation for the BIG BANG…

I am not sure whether to continue with this exercise exclusively or start gradually doing other exercises and continue in the book working my way to the end and as inspired come back to this exercise periodically to expand and consolidate this accomplishment. Very puzzling.. This is the ultimate experience… I want it bad!

S.

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Reply #3 - Mar 4^th, 2010 at 7:56pm

Seraphis, you earlier said this:
I have seen a horizon with light rising below it… I am very excited and grateful to the loving God who created this Universe and has led me to the threshold of His kingdom… with all my heart I wish for the Grace to enter His Kingdom… which is within…

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Perhaps, just pause, make no decision now. Let spirit guide you to the right moment for you.

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Reply #4 - Mar 4^th, 2010 at 10:15pm

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Seraphis, you earlier said this:
I have seen a horizon with light rising below it… I am very excited and grateful to the loving God who created this Universe and has led me to the threshold of His kingdom… with all my heart I wish for the Grace to enter His Kingdom… which is within…

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Perhaps, just pause, make no decision now. Let spirit guide you to the right moment for you.

Hi b2: Thanks for the input. Patience is not one of my virtues. Cheesy

But get this:

Analysis of important symbolism in the session.

The plot thickens… I just realize that there may be more significance to the Lamp than I thought:

Projecting Love Energy Exercise:

…Victorian box lamp nestled in a kind of pillow like formation… cream color glow… on right side… thick white milk splattered over a bowl..

The Victorian box lamp had a four-sided sloped roof-like construction… it was black… this was a street lamp that was probably oil-fired… and lit by hand as scenes in old Victorian custom movies.

It occurs to me that the source of my problem with seeing the Divine Light as it really is… is locked up in that symbol…

Clearly I have Victorian values… and belief systems connected with religion that goes deep… they may be diametrically opposed to
The Truth… which then acts like a block…

I had a very successful lifetime in Victorian England… the Divine Light is encased in those beliefs… but, what were they? I don’t remember what those beliefs were… since I was a member of the then Illuminati… I was a Deist and not necessarily a Christian… that I am certain of… but I was also not English… though I was raised there as a child… I was German… a descendent of Teutonic Knights… militaristic Prussian orientation… rigid!!! I am rigid… I have some firm rock solid belief that keeps the Divine Light encased in a long forgotten, antiquated and rigid construct… what was it???

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Reply #5 - Mar 5^th, 2010 at 9:23am

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2010 at 10:15pm:

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Perhaps, just pause, make no decision now. Let spirit guide you to the right moment for you.

Hi b2: Sage words. I woke up this morning much calmed down and I realized BM's AKG has tools. When all else fails follow instructions. Cool

p. 108 - Using Heart Intelligence Exercise to ask a burning question.

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Reply #6 - Mar 5^th, 2010 at 9:55am

Greetings,

What you are doing (uniting the inner and outer worlds) is extremely important, Seraphis. Be kind to your own entire self!

Every time you make a mental connection between the various realms (and I suspect there are more than just the two --inner, outer-- that I mentionned) you are connecting new pathways of energy/thought for yourself and also probably for those around you

Your new pathways thoughout your mind and connecting you to the Universe will I suspect become highways as you add more and more wisdom. Explorers in the past often had large support groups when they got this far. I'm not sure we can really do enough across the internet.
Do you eat well? Do you rest? Exercise? You are an entire human system, not just the rediscovered pathways. Remember hearing about the California gold prospectors who got 'gold fever'? Shocked

I agree with b2.

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Reply #7 - Mar 5^th, 2010 at 6:15pm

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2010 at 10:15pm:

Quote:

Analysis of important symbolism in the session.

The plot thickens… I just realize that there may be more significance to the Lamp than I thought:

Projecting Love Energy Exercise:

…Victorian box lamp nestled in a kind of pillow like formation… cream color glow… on right side… thick white milk splattered over a bowl..

The Victorian box lamp had a four-sided sloped roof-like construction… it was black… this was a street lamp that was probably oil-fired… and lit by hand as scenes in old Victorian custom movies.

It occurs to me that the source of my problem with seeing the Divine Light as it really is… is locked up in that symbol…

Clearly I have Victorian values… and belief systems connected with religion that goes deep… they may be diametrically opposed to The Truth… which then acts like a block…

I had a very successful lifetime in Victorian England… the Divine Light is encased in those beliefs… but, what were they? I don’t remember what those beliefs were… since I was a member of the then Illuminati… I was a Deist and not necessarily a Christian… that I am certain of… but I was also not English… though I was raised there as a child… I was German… a descendent of Teutonic Knights… militaristic Prussian orientation… rigid!!! I am rigid… I have some firm rock solid belief that keeps the Divine Light encased in a long forgotten, antiquated and rigid construct… what was it???

S.

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2010 at 9:23am:

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Perhaps, just pause, make no decision now. Let spirit guide you to the right moment for you.

Hi b2: Sage words. I woke up this morning much calmed down and I realized BM's AKG has tools. When all else fails follow instructions. Cool

p. 108 - Using Heart Intelligence Exercise to ask a burning question.

S.

Well I did the “Using Heart Intelligence” and asking the burning question… what was the Prussian Code which causes my rigidity.

This answer is very different from and far removed from Victorian England and my Prussian roots… tho marginally linked in a chain of cause and effect and didn’t come in the session didn’t come but throughout the day pieces of it began to surface and the interpreter kept giving up the root that became roots and a great tangle until I reached the what I believe was my first entry into the physical universe… from the Causal Plane on which I was one ‘horny thought form’, I didn’t seem to have body per se… but I was chasing my female ‘thought form’ counter part around the Causal Plane… saying to her… ‘Give it to me. Give it to me.’ and she kept saying ‘No’… to make a long story short she disappears down a vortex and like the idiot I am I follow her down and the disaster begins… everything got tangled in infidelities, rivalries and wars over women… I got erotic/lust love and Divine love all tangled up and was not able to differentiate between the two. There was no Robert Monroe and Hemi-sync at the time.

So now I have love and death, destruction, betrayal all linked together… I lost those battles… so love was a bad thing… more lifetime come and I never get the two disentangled… I end these lives in death by combat or suicides and am frustrated with love..

Finally, I have to suppress love to gain power… to gain a crown I have to murder the several people who are ahead of me in the line of succession… until I become the only legitimate heir to the throne… how convenient…

The Prussian militaristic experience involves a code of brutal obedience to the leader… no love is possible… the code of the warrior… is ’ask no quarter and give no quarter…’ rooted deep in my subconscious is the knowledge built over the centuries that love is a deadly enemy of survival, so it wasn’t hard to accept that code.

But, I am just a child, and removed to England where I fall in love… and everything changes… but, in a jealous rage I strangle my wife flee to Denmark… but, she did not die… she wants me back and that story ends well for the first time in a whole bunch of centuries…

But, I now confront the problem of destroying those roots which like a great oak go everywhere in the soil of my subconscious and unconscious… but, now I know… erotic/lustful love and Divine love are two different things… God IS Love… which permeates everything and that is the Yoga… merging my ego/love with the God/Love… QED!!

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Reply #8 - Mar 5^th, 2010 at 6:20pm

betson wrote on Mar 5^th, 2010 at 9:55am:

Greetings,

What you are doing (uniting the inner and outer worlds) is extremely important, Seraphis. Be kind to your own entire self!

Every time you make a mental connection between the various realms (and I suspect there are more than just the two --inner, outer-- that I mentionned) you are connecting new pathways of energy/thought for yourself and also probably for those around you

Your new pathways thoughout your mind and connecting you to the Universe will I suspect become highways as you add more and more wisdom. Explorers in the past often had large support groups when they got this far. I'm not sure we can really do enough across the internet.
Do you eat well? Do you rest? Exercise? You are an entire human system, not just the rediscovered pathways. Remember hearing about the California gold prospectors who got 'gold fever'? Shocked

I agree with b2.

Bets

Hi bets: Thanks for the supportive sentiments. I have good meals every day. Rest as well as can be accomplished. Exercise is a problem since I don't like exercising but I do range of motion stuff before sessioning. I guess I do have the 'Self-realization" fever... I am so close... but patience is the order of the day.

S.

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Reply #10 - Mar 6^th, 2010 at 1:55am

3/5/10 - afternoon session:

Projecting Love Energy Exercise:

This session was characterized by fairly deep relaxation and good awareness of energy from below and above… but, no awareness of the energy flowing… cocooning is pronounced… frontal lobe pressure… activating of the brain… in the pituitary area… surprised to see Jesus or the figure of Jesus with arms in a ‘v’ palms of hands out… I see no color but white muslin… sense inner light blue garment… but, don’t actually see it through a haze… shift to frontal lobes… just behind and a golden beetle appears… in front of the third eye… is this the pituitary… ?? This is an Egyptian symbol… not sure how they used it…

S.

John 8:12 & 9:5 Then spake Jesus again unto them saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."&"As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world."

Son of a gun… I think the Interpreter through the “Using Heart Intelligence exercise dissolved the Victorian Lamp”… I am not encased in a rigid body. Still don’t see the pure unshielded ‘Divine Light’. But, now, I see the representation of Light in the ‘image’ of Jesus… and interestingly enough as I began writing this I saw a great flash pin point of ‘electric blue light’.

This could be a major leap forward toward The Big Bang. Because I think I was seeing the ‘Jesus’ image through the Pituitary Gland. I had the distinct feeling that I was looking back into my brain to about the position that the Pineal should be seated…

Now what about The Golden Beetle?

The Beetle in Egyptian mythology represents the brain.

Not quite sure what to make of this… back to… ‘Using Heart Intelligence and asking the burning questionj??’

I wonder.

I’ll think on it… like Scarlet said at the end of Gone with the Wind… ‘…tomorrow is another day.’

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Reply #11 - Mar 6^th, 2010 at 2:56am

Analysis of important symbolism in the session.

nonphysicalguy wrote on Mar 5^th, 2010 at 9:05pm:

Does anyone else have no idea what he is talking about? Cheesy

Assuming you are serious, and have not encounter Robert Monroe’s NVC (Non-verbal-communication) phenomena in which Monroe suggest that the greater part of the non-physical universe communicates in its own unique way… it is up to you to learn to understand that subconscious/unconscious language.

That being said what I am talking about is very simple.

Jesus said "If your eye be single, your body will fill with light"

I am attempting to achieve this goal… to make my ‘eye’ single. That is to awaken the Divine Light which is accomplished by drawing Divine Light Energy from Above into the Pineal Gland thus producing The Big Bang… or …making the eye single…

The thing that prevents the …making of the eye single… is the individual ego… which believes in duality and this duality clouds the single eye… and keeps one in darkness… removing the belief systems which create the illusion that the universe is real eventually dissolves duality and one becomes fully aware that the Universe is One. The single eye.

That is the long and the short of it.

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Reply #12 - Mar 6^th, 2010 at 6:43pm

As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world."

This also means that Jesus was a spiritual master while he was alive. Spiritual masters can give you initiation and affect your karma and spiritual progression while they are alive. Yes, you can pray to spiritual masters after they moved off the physical plane, but they cannot assist u in the same manner as a living spiritual master/teacher.

There have been and continue to be spiritual masters that can initiate you into the Light & Sound of the Word (or Shabd or Music of the Spheres) that can help with meditation, exploring the inner planes and activating the pineal gland. PM me or look up "sant mat" and Science of Spirituality for more info. The nice thing about initiation too is that the master power protects you from any untoward "characters" on the astral, causal, and supercausal planes.

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Reply #13 - Mar 7^th, 2010 at 2:16am

Analysis of important symbolism in the session.

Seraphis1 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2010 at 1:55am:

3/5/10 - afternoon session:

Projecting Love Energy Exercise:

surprised to see Jesus or the figure of Jesus with arms in a ‘v’ palms of hands out… I see no color but white muslin… sense inner light blue garment… but, don’t actually see it through a haze… shift to frontal lobes…[b]

3/6/10 - afternoon

…then in the front of my head… my pov… in the pineal??… is back inside my brain looking out… the Last Supper painting appears… but, I become more aware of Da vinci on the far left of Jesus with his index finger sign which he always introduces to suggest his affiliation and loyalty to John the Baptist…

S.

It happened again. The Jesus paradigm. This is puzzling because in my conscious mind I favor The Buddhist paradigm.

But in my subconscious/unconscious mind I am plugged into the Jesus… archtype.

Why?

Dr. David Hawkins says the Jesus was concerned with Salvation and Buddha was concerned with Enlightenment.

In my conscious mind I am working for Enlightenment. My subconscious/unconscious mind is telling me I need salvation.

I think I see some part of this dilemna… the missunderstanding of love and erotica/lust of past life entanglements… create the duality… duality creates suffering… if the Jesus paradigm is concerned with Salvation… I need to discover how to give up whatever juice I get from the preoccupation with duality that causes my suffering… thus, giving up suffering… do I actually enjoy suffering at some level… ???

Sadomasochism is rooted in a mutual enjoyment of the exchange of pain/pleasure… hummmm. Never thought of myself as either… but, I must be enjoying the pain inflicted by suffering.

Thus, the crucifixion is a form of sadomasochism acting out… at some level tho, there is this fundamental meaning, as destruction of ego.

Yes, I think I see it… the ego needs the mind to exist…

I need to sleep on that…

Enlightenment is beyond the mind..

Enlightenment… is Light… in the sessions the light is clouded by some kind of mind/symbol. Just behind it is the Light. The light is just below the horizon… the light is encased in a Victorian Lamp.

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Reply #14 - Mar 8^th, 2010 at 4:23pm

Analysis of important symbolism in the session.

3/8/10

Well, I think I got the meaning of The Golden Beetle and The Last Supper, but, not the significance of the focus on Da Vinci and the emphasis on his John the Baptist sign. More on Da Vinci later.

Both The Golden Beetle and The Last Supper represent The Brain… I am not sure how the Egyptians used The Golden Beetle but, I found some interesting material on The Biblical symbolism on the brain. The New Testament is a refinement and a condensation of the Old Testament. The Old Testament giving a detailed symbolic description of how the mind works and the pitfalls of it.

The New Testament is explaining how to dissolve the mind and the ego that gives power to it.

The Twelve Apostles represent the twelve cranial nerves being the gates to The City your brain.

My p.o.c. is in the pineal, as I am looking out toward the back of the frontal lobes… clearly the image is formed in the Pituitary… the seat of the personality…

In The Last Supper Mural, Da Vinci has his back to Jesue… and with his left hand he signifies the sign of John the Baptist… Lynn Picket and Clive Prince suggest that Da Vinci didn’t believe Jesus was the primary figure… John the Baptist was… this is consistent with Dan Brown’s contention that Da Vinci was a Grand Master of The Priory of Sion… according the Brown concept… the founders of The Knights Templar… which in Da Vinci’s time had formed underground as the early Freemason’s.

Now I have to figure out why I am being pointed to John the Baptist.

Seems like everytime I get one answer another pops up at some point I hope the need to get these answers drops away as I quite and resolve and desolve the mind.

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