supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:12pm:


The Holy Spirit. With it, all things become clear.

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:21pm:


Oh, I'm sure, don't worry. I've witnessed the things that Satan can do and the Holy Spirit is definitely from our Lord God. Thank you for being so concerned, though.

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:31pm:


My only hope is to bring Truth to anyone who may be on the fence or not sure about what they're currently doing. I never stated that I knew any of you and I posted here in the hopes of learning to know as many of you as I can. If you could please point out where I made such generalizations that blanket statemented the entire forum, then maybe I can explain my viewpoint a bit further. Or admit that I was wrong, perhaps. I have no problem doing so when the situation actually warrants it!

Do you act so malevolently to everyone who has a different opinion then you do, or is it just in regards to when the topic turns to your out of body adventures?

Some on here have answered and explained things in a loving and non-hostile way. I could tell from what they wrote that they weren't the least bit shaken from having a vastly alternate viewpoint to their core overall beliefs suddenly spring up on board. Your outbursts do nothing but suggest to me that you're not the least bit grounded in your belief system.

If you could please assure yourself that I am in no way here to ridicule anyone and instead exchange beliefs and knowledge, perhaps we could have a more in-depth and civilized discussion? Who are you, Supermodel? You suggest I've made generalizations about all of you, then please explain who you really are and why you believe in what you believe in. I am merely curious and passionate about my own beliefs -- that's the only reason I am here. If I ever become too pushy, arrogant or insensitive, then please bring it to my attention immediately. Like all of us on here, I am by no means perfect! 

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:43pm:


The things I asked of Juditha were directly related to her posts in this very sub-forum. I'm going to put that topic on hold though until she gets back to me with the answers to the stuff I'd asked of her earlier.

As for OBE's, as I stated earlier, I do inherently believe that I have something against them. From my perspective as I stated earlier, it all could very well could be a demonic mirage. However, I haven't shut my mind to any alternative realities by any means. I've been researching as many of the Christian viewpoints about OBE's/astral projection that I can and am attempting to potentially reform my previous beliefs about them should the opportunity present itself.

As for me calling it OBE's, I really don't know what else to call it other than the phase thing. Do you all call it something else? Should I refer to it as astral projection? I didn't mean to come off as disrespectful by using such a term, only that it is by far the most convenient and speedy of phrases!

supermodel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 7:55pm:


Ah I can see why you got that hunch. By adventures... I dunno, I really think that such a label was fitting as per what I've read on here in regards to recaps/summaries of people's OBE's/phase travels, it really seems like each one is an adventure. At least to you all. I don't personally view them as adventures, but felt it was a proper and respectful way to label the experiences without knowing of them first hand. In retrospect I suppose I can just use 'experiences' or something else.

I can imagine what things were once like and considering all that I've said thus far and our differing opinions and beliefs, I've been very impressed at how civilized and pleasant my reception has been. I am sorry for suggesting our original encounters consisted of you being malevolent -- while it certainly wasn't the warmest of introductions, it's clear now that your heart is in the right place. And for that, at least, I am thankful.

Not many alternative spiritual belief forums can boast such an open viewpoint policy towards people sprouting up with vastly different faiths or beliefs. This is in large part one of the reasons that I've gone out of my way to try and make clear that I'm not here to ridicule or beat you all over the head with what I believe is the only Truth. So hopefully this thread -- with this part in particular -- will help make this more evident.

I'm glad we've patched things up, Supermodel. Not the least of which is because I'm sure you'd prove quite a handful in a witty, intense debate!

hi alarm clock i had issues years ago when i went through it one night with 3 dark entitys,but god protected me through it and for a long while i wondered why and then i was talking to this medium about how long she had been a medium and she told me quite a few years ,then she said to me"dont spirit put you through it when you start to be a medium",she said she had a bad experience herself,i know there is evil out there and i know there is a plain in heaven were these go but at the same time there given a chance to change,so nothing is ever lost,love can win against evil,god wins everytime,but if you show a bad spirit that your scared they will get more and more intimidating but if you ignore it and say prayers and starting throwing faith and love to it,this can put things right..

thats why catholic priests called in someones home to do exorcisim just ignore the spirit and do the exorcise ritual and this usually cleanses the home,but i knowthat possesion can occur,especially to someone whos vunerable and thats because the first part of poseesion is when the spirit trys to isolate this person and the second stage of possesion is when the spirit has full control on this person and then thats when exorcisim comes in, but a person who is strong will never get possesed or leaded on.i read this somewhere or heard it somewhere cant quite remember.

i know when im talking to spirit,i sense them and i sometimes see them,and as soon as i read undermanagers post,i saw this man and what i told undermanger about him is what spirit gave me,because spirit wanted me to help him understand that this spirit was not a threat.

i could stand in a room and tell you whether a spirit is good or not good.but also i may get it wrong  buts thats just being human

love god bless love juditha

Juditha, if I may have your permission, I'd like to further our discussion via PM. Despite the fact that I disagree with your associations of your abilities and God, I no longer wish to paint you in a negative light anywhere on these forums. It was wrong of me to try and originally do so but everything happens for a reason and I quickly realized the error of what I had done. Once again, apologies for everything.

Waiting on your permission to send a PM.

fanaticism is dangerious, no matter what the belief, and "imposing" your spiritual beliefs upon anouther has nothing to do with being good, or being close to God. When I explore the other energies and areas of my consciousness, I fine little that is evil, and much more of what I dont understand. I have yet to be confronted by a "Satan". I doubt I ever will be. But I have found myself closer to my God. Perhaps we find what we need, or what we are looking for. So if your looking to find the evil in things, you surely will. If your looking to find the good, or the love in things, thats just what your going to find. Perhaps it is better to make the decision on what we are looking for..