This is by far the most heretical post I've made yet when in altered state of consciousness. It was prompted by an imaginary or real(doesn't matter) conversation with an Evil Entity.

He (I) (the entity) proposed that we are living a lie - good is evil and evil is good.

He wanted me to join the "evil" side on body exit (final).

Now who in their right minds would even consider that? - AND THATS THE DUSI. Everyone is so busy warning about hell, but who wants to go there in the first place?

I asked him (the entity, which was real) why he had so much hatred for me and always tried to destroy me. He said, the only way to combat good is to fight it with evil (the opposite of good).

The Earth is in the "Good" sector. It is only  called "Good" because that is what is popular here (goodness).

We could be in a realm with the most terrible disgusting atrocities , but we have been popularized as living in a "Good" realm.

We live in a "good "realm and everything that is not good is evil. That gives evil a pretty bad name, by default. Thats what got me to considering this whole thing. I mean, "murder" is classed as "evil" in most situations. So when you say "Evil" you automatically think Satanism, etc. So an awful amount of things are evil. Why are they evil? Because they don't follow the established order of things (they are not "GOOD").

This might be a simplistic view.

Perhaps "Good" is "God". The angels rebelled in heaven and Lucifer was cast down. Perhaps Lucifer was the only one with enough common sense to see that the "good" way was leading to only torment and suffering.

I mean look at Capitalism. Meant to be good, right? Personally I could not think of a more barbaric system which allows 20% of the 6 billion to live oblivious to the person starving right next to them. So Capatalism is __evil__.

Maybe, going with the flow when you die, going to the between lives area, etc... is the wrong thing to do. Perhaps you should do the opposite, go and hold council with the evil. Look at both sides of the story.

One theory holds that we land up reunifying with God after a long struggle. This is guaranteed loss of consciousness for you forever. Why? Because you weren't conscious BEFORE God split, were you? - So in this case, "EVIL" opposes this - it refuses reintegration with God, leaving God to his natural space.. Refuse to go through endless cycles of Karma only to return to nothing! When you DIE, DEMAND to know the truth!

"Evil"s plan is to have immortal existences for us all. One with dignity and respect. Our spirit world must be really messed up, becuase "AS ABOVE, SO BELOW". If you look at the sad state of this world, it doesn't say much.

So there is a war between good and evil.

BUT the people who are "evil" believe they are the good ones, because they are guaranteeing us immortal life, with self respect.

I say, if you can trap a bird in a house, with no way out, and it is obliged to stay in the house, you can trap him in a much smaller space - a cage - and he cannot ever get out.

So each and every one of us is trapped in a small space (this body of ours, and this planet). WHAT IS STOPPING THEM FROM TRAPPING YOU INTO A 1CM BY 1CM (or atom size) box? For eternity! We could all be turning into atoms!

Personally, I don't recall granting my permission, express or implied, to be born onto this planet. Neither have I been given the courtesy of an explanation from the "elders" or whichever spirits are in charge here, as to why/what/how is going on in this place?? The least they could do is give me an option to stay or leave.

Anyway, I am just considering the other side. This certainly was an eye opener for me to think in this way.

My first thought was : Why would anyone choose to be evil?

Then I thought: Because maybe evil is good and good is evil! Just excellent PR on the part of God and his angels!

(Geez I'd better stand aside for the lightening strike.)

This was written in an altered state (its the only time I seem to write anything of controversial value).

What do you guys think? I don't say I believe it. I'm just saying, have you thought about it this way?

With love, light, hatred, darkness and vengence,

Neil




He (I) said they were losing the war, but only marginally, evil just needs more beings on their side.

I've thought about it - I've never myself met an evil person! Everyone I've met was trying to do good (mostly for themselves).

So how do we explain the astral hells? Perhaps it is because our perception is switched around. People in the hells perceive the hell as good, and people in the "good" planes pereive hell as bad.

PERSONALLY - I don't know. What I have presented above is a very sketch outline of a theory that I (or another) thought out, to win souls over to 'Evil'.

Neil-

Your post has quite a few invalid premises.  So before anyone could respond one way or the other to your post, they would first have to challenge the premises.

For example, your premise on capitalism is that "it was meant to be good."

Where did you get that from?  Please give us your source(s). 

And when you say 20% of the world's population (presumably those who benefit from capitalism) are oblivious to starving people next door, that is preposterous. 

Fact is, the starving people are concentrated in countries where capitalism is NOT the economic system.  And countries that embrace capitalism have done more for poor countries and their population than any other system.

So I suspect that your own premises, wrong as they may be, have so affected your thinking that you now think that maybe evil is the way to go.

Frankly I think your post is totally nonsensical.  And, quite frankly should be sent to the Off Topic Forum.

R

Squelch someone for their honesty?

How about if they grossly misstate a very major fact?  Should we just ignore it because they misstate it in an honest manner?

Where would you draw the line?  Suppose someone stated in a post that the holocaust never really happened.  But they stated it in an "honest" manner.  Should that post be "squelched"?

Come on Beau.  I know we live in a world where 2+2 is 5 as long as the person truly believes it to be so, but let's not toss integrity out the window for fear we might offend someone.

Off Topic forum doesn't squelch anyone.

As soon as a being started talking to me in such a way I'd stop it, and tell it to changes it way.

When a being, either human or non-human is intent on rationalizing things in a dishnonest manner, apparently, it doesn't do a lot of good to talk to them.

Perhaps there isn't good or evil. Just ego. By the way, there's plenty of malnutritioned people up here in Canada also. Plenty. Ideological governments believing in capitalism don't guaranty that their peoples wont starve. There are countries in Africa that you can vote in but cant get a decent nutrition for the masses.  Are people starving in Cuba? Not many.
Neil, stay on the good side. There is plenty of time for evil on the next round through. And theres lots of work to do here.

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It's democracy that lets people vote, not capitalism.

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I think you're getting the two "goods" mixed up. It's the one that seems to work best, it's not supposed to be morally good.
Communism on the other hand was meant to be morally good and it didn't work, because most people don't care about morals when faced with the chance to have more than everybody else.

cheers,
Vagabound

But Vagabound, how many communist countries do you know of that use the capitalist system? (And really, is capitalism better than socialism?)Afghanistan is trying democracy, thanks to the USA and NATO. Like there's not starving going on over there. They have had capitalist style markets for hundreds of years yet people still go hungry. Well that is unless your a part of the upper crust or a propped up politician. Sort of like like health care in the USA. If you cant afford it, to bad for you. Die then. Nice country. Canada, Germany, among many others, have it so mush better health wise. In the USA it would seem that capitalism has gone way to far. Making it so that only the rich will be taken care of and the poor to be left behind. Spiritually wise, I find it disheartening that a country like the US would allow its old, week, and poor to die or be sick because they don't have the cash to pay for medical help. And its not only the USA. Many countries are in the same boat. Perhaps unchecked capitalism is the evil on this earth that Neil and the rest of us should be concerned with. If there was a price on PUL, then most likly, most Americans couldn't afford it, and only the rich would find spiritual enlightenment.