Doc-

I agree with your points, except that the radical muslim in this example is going to think he's actually in heaven and is truly reaping the promised reward by Allah for his murderous acts.

I can understand why a thief would sooner or later understand that he's in a BST and that love is the way out, but our other friend is going to be convinced that a loving Allah came through for him.

So it would be difficult, maybe even bordering on impossible, for him to perceive a lack of love in that particular BST where the virgins comply with his every wish.  In his case, he really did die and go to heaven. And even if he's surrounded by other like-minded radicals, they too would be enjoying their rewards.  In their case, murders of infidels is a positive attribute.

For him, leaving would be tantamount to a rejection of his own god. A tough sell!

Unless, however, he eventually tires of the 72 virgins and gradually comes to realize the truth of the old saying "be careful of what you wish for."

R

Hi Goobygirl,

Matthew does an eloquent job of explaining this concept.

It is intent that moves consciousness from one state of being to another on all "levels"... our personal ELS intent, our "higher self" intent, which is not always known, but continually penetrates into the ELS self, as well as the greater "God/Goddess" consciousness system intent. For example, I've seen aura's for over 30 years. The aura is basically consciousness that carries information from the non-physical into the physical, but the aura itself is only a metaphor that filters from my total being consciousness to my ELS consciousness.  

I can understand why some may think healing/spiritual experiencing are outside of themselves, but they're not. The person simply is not aware of his/her higher consciousness being his/her self. Receiving info this way can be very useful, but it is not necessary. I know very effective healers that have never "seen" auras. It is the quality of intent that deems effectiveness.

To think that we are separated from the larger system is incorrect. We are a part of it and it is a part of us. None of these levels of being are truly separate. And at no time are we ever not a part of the entire larger system.  It only seems that way because of the various laws/rules that the larger system places within the lesser systems for the purpose of growing/becoming/evolving the whole of consciousness.



Hi Roger,

Hope you don't mind me putting my two cents in, too.

I'd say, as Matthew mentions, if the person believed that would be his afterlife experience, then quite possibly that is what he would experience. At least until he learned/experienced and integrated into his consciousness something different, which of course could take place in numerous ways. For example, he may at some point become more aware of his total being. Remember we are only a stream of our soul/total being.

Certainly we do create unsavory experiences both here and in the non-physical world. There are probably more opportunities to do so in the non-physical world as there are here because the non-physical has fewer laws/rules that govern it. The evolution of consciousness is set up to explore all potentialities to discover those that serve the whole system in the most beneficial way. Lines are drawn with the rules/laws that exist within the various realities.  Absolute free will is an intricate aspect of the total consciousness system, so free will reigns free within the governing laws of any particular reality.  

Kathy