Hi,

Can anyone tell me, in what Book Mr. Moen gives a very detailed description of Focus Fifteen with thourough explanation of what the Energy of Focus Fifteen is, how to use it, how to properly use Intent in Focus Fifteen e.t.c. I heard, he wrote a lot about this Focus in one of his Books (as I was told, in the last one), paying a special atttention to it. But they guy said this Book isn't yet available on the Web...

Hello Mr. Moen,

Many thanks. Will purchase it for sure.

In the Fifth Book, You explain how to shift the Attention Point to other realities (I read just the table of contents). You mean only non-physical realities or alternative physical realities too?

Heimdall wrote on Jun 26^th, 2009 at 10:06pm:


Hmm . . .
I would have to agree that my assumption that all of us will experience entry into an afterlife with the death of our physical body should rightly be questioned.  Afterall, it is only my opinion.  All evidence I've gathered from my present level of experience existing with what we call physical reality in what we call physical form points in that direction, but it is only my opinion.

It is also my opinion that we are already immortal beings so I see no reason to be too hung up on existence in one reality, say physical, over any other reality.  If we are eternal beings I prefer a little variety.  As I've often said, living "over there" where the eternal nature of our being can be more "in your face" can probably get a little boring, so,  I view my lifetime here in physical reality as a vacation from eternity.

I find your logic regarding "Human is God, he MUST Live Forever. His physical body is Sacred, it's the Manifestation of his Soul. If Soul is Immortal, why Body shouldn't be? " flawless if we assume God is a physical being.  But, I don't share the opinion that God is limited to a physical existence.  God appears to exist within every where and every when I have explored and I assume God exists far beyond the tiny fraction of existence I've explored.  So, using your logic, we humans ought to be capable of the same thing.

When you say, "A Man can be free only if he Fights the Entire World . . . If one isn't a Warrior, he'll be a slave, wherever he hides or tries to escape." I could not disagree with you more.

There is a Chinese proverb that asks the question, If after a journey of a 10,000 miles you begin a fight to the death, what should be your one wish?  The proberb's answer is, That you are not the one who made the journey.  Fighting the entire world is in itself an enslavement that costs too many their freedom because they are too busy fighting to be free in my opinion.  Warriors are, in my opinion, just slaves to the next battle.  

I prefer not living in a reality populated entirely by warriiors and slaves.  I believe we have other choice available to us.  Personally, I would prefer to exist within a reality in which all the inhabitants see it as their duty to never force their will or their beliefs upon any of the other inhabitants.  In such a place I live by my law, live and let live, and in doing so I am free to pursue whatever I desire.

Bruce

Dear Mr. Moen,

Thank You for your replies. I ought to read Your Books.

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I would prefer it too. But to win Freedom, one must first Fight. There's nothing in the Universe, that would be given for free. First comes War, then Peace. For example, in the U.S. Americans had to fight for Independence from the British Crown. What would be America under the Brits now? Any peaceful pacific reality will be destroyed or enslaved by an aggressive one. The Humanity is enslaved by the extra-terrestials and their human incarnates and representatives. Don't You think so? This started from the fall of Atlantis, when People Were Gods or Semi-Gods at least, and who dared invading, was destroyed. On the contrary, the Atlantian Empire together with other civilizations controlled a huge area of the Universe. The destructive forces managed to spoil the Humanity, they'll do it again. We build, they ruin. So they shall be destroyed (sanation), our reality needs to be clear of them.

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To me, Aggression, Conquest and Domination are primary features of Homo Sapiens. The First Creation was an act of aggression and expansion against the Void, the Nothingness, which existed before. That's why the Life itself is Aggressive in the nature, and we'll Fight Forever. It never stops. The Earth and The Solar System should be peaceful Domains, I agree, so that the Human-Lords may Rest on the Earth like in Heaven. No need to part with one's Body to reach all the Realms. But like in the Crusaders' time, always keep their Swords near at hand for far campaigns.

By the way, our Eternity has been crippled. Reincarnation deletes one's memory, and it means the loss of Individuality. That's why I consider reincarnation a pathology.

Those, who appeal to you with sweet words about peace, just want to kill you, take your home, rape your wife and enslave your children.

Those, who say the word "Love" too many times a day, in fact live by hate. Because they vulgarize this word. It means their soul (if they have one at all) is vulgar.

on focus 15, I love my "no time" there. I find using Bob Monroes tapes(hemi sync) the easiest why to get and maintain the experience. I think it important also to remember that the experiences that we have in the different Focus Levels are as different as the people experiencing them. When Bruce writes about his experiences at the Coordination or Planing Centers does not mean that you will experience the same connections or have the same sort of experiences. Bruce was fortunate to be able to figure out his communication exchange. Not all of us are so lucky as to have figured out the NVC(non verbal communication) so quickly. After a number of years I am just scratching the surface of this type communication.
I believe you said it already...you "ought to read the books". There great reading and can be of some help in understanding his view point. By the way, welcome to the forum.

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For this purpose exist "white" religions and cults.

Wearing "pink spectacles" won't save, when it comes to a fight. If you think it'll never come, this is what makes you absolutely vulnerable. Because, if all thought SO, it would be SO. But it's far from it yet. Unfortunately. Denying active resistance is a way to slavery, nowhere else, since there are lots of hungry beasts around.

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I simply won't believe you. If you show it by action, not just words - it's another sort of thing.

My life is full of Struggle and I'm in constant Battle.

I'm Russian.

Hi Hawkeye,

You have no idea what I'm speaking about? Are you kidding? Or lying? So, what did you say about frienship and trust? Here I've caught you . It’s here in the Chapter, named “The Planning Center”. Maybe you haven't read it? Then, read, if you want. In this chapter some entities talk to Bruce and explain how they control Human Lives from Focus Fifteen. They have launched AIDS, for example, to cause depopulation. And were planning to exterminate lots of people more. The reason? To protect ecology from the Human influence and to protect the Christian Faith from gays. Because even true Christians hate gays, and thus Christians may start blaming themselves in not loving their neighbour. Also increasing greed for accumulating, but not spending money. I wonder why Jews aren't mentioned.
A typical Nazi-style bullshit.

Voyages into the Afterlife: Charting Unknown Territory Volume 3

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/charting.html

This is what Mr. Moen recommended me to read about Focus Fifteen.

THE FIRST SIN WAS TRUST.

Do you really think I've never communicated and made friends with foreigners? Pay attention to my command of English. My good friend was one South-Californian man, a former Marines Officer, Vietnam Vet, awarded with the "Purple Heart".

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We'll fight till the last of our enemies is dead, ride through their blood, that we gladly have shed. 's words, not mine. But great words. And a great crew.
Watch the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-J3B_2peko The song is named "Call To Arms".

This Fight started from the first day of Creation, and soon it'll meet its climax. In 2012-th.