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Nov 16th, 2008 at 2:55am
 
Does anyone know, what is the highest realm in which you can have sex Smiley
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Reply #1 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 9:21am
 
Smiley Good question.

Anyone?
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Reply #2 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 10:53am
 
Well, since sex by definition requires some type of body, I'd say the highest realm you can have sex is the highest realm in which you are still able to manifest the illusion of having a body form.
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Reply #3 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 11:27am
 
Interesting topic, can anyone reply from experience over speculation?
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Reply #4 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 11:49am
 
First of all, how do you define such a thing?

For some people, the most wonderful sensation possible for them would be to simply hold someone's hand, or to be hugged....

For others, I certainly would not be able to say.

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Reply #5 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 12:47pm
 
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Sex can easily be defined.  Just look in the dictionary.  It is technically the penetration of the female genitalia with the male genitalia, but there are variations.  In any case, a body is required... even just to hold another's hand, or to hug.  It is only common sense to say that in realms where a body form doesn't exist, these body-dependent actions do not either.  Of course, the nonphysical equivalent would most likely be the unison of two beings, both merging into one in an explosion of love and ecstasy.
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Reply #6 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 4:05pm
 
Hi Sex is overated,i would rather have a curry and rice,but if it was Frank Sinatra then i would skip the curry,i have heard though that in the spirit world ,you can have what they call a union of two souls,its like sex on the earth but different in the spiritworld.

Love and God bless    love juditha

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Reply #7 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 5:52pm
 
Yes and I also read that it last much longer than here on earth. 30 min earth time.
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Reply #8 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 6:11pm
 
you can have what they call a union of two souls,its like sex on the earth but different in the spiritworld.

If you do it right, you can have that here, too.
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Reply #9 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 10:54pm
 
Well, OOBDudes answer is quite logical. In meditations I found myself in places which felt rather "high", lucid, vibrant, and had sex there. It's handled like an art there.
But I too was somewhere where I hadn't a body like what is usually understood as body, it was like to be an energy field which easily could be expanded or contracted and could take on all kinds of shapes, it was still "stable", but not solid. I then played a game with another "person" with such a "body", and there were obvious parallels to bodily sex, though there was always a sharing of thoughts, emotions, images; so "body-only" sex wasn't possible in that state (but it isn't really possible in the physical either is it?).

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Reply #10 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 11:56pm
 
Sounds like we have different opinions on what is sex and what is sexuality.  Sounds like some are defining it as physical and some as spiritual.  For me, it always begins with the mind.  For instance, you can imagine a great sexual experience and even reach orgasm without having physical sex.  Two minds can do this together as well.  So I guess then another way to ask the question could be, is there a level at which you lose the desire for sex? 

You know what they say, when there's a will there's a way.
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Reply #11 - Nov 17th, 2008 at 10:32am
 
I agree with Vicky.  I think OOB dude is correct if we are taking a strict definition.  But everything we experience here is a manifestation of thought in the physical plane, including sex.  So, if one is on a different plane of thought, and one has an attraction to another spirit, one could follow one's desires - it depends if your minds take you there.  Will it be the same as sex on the physical plane?  Of course not, but the underlying  basic state of mind/feeling/need can be fulfilled.  I have heard talk of sex on various heavenly planes.  It has been described as an intimate joining, different but still powerful. 

Its all your state of mind....

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Reply #12 - Nov 17th, 2008 at 1:35pm
 
Lust is one kind of energy, love is a completely different kind of energy. You can't live completely according to love if you also want to live according to lust. Lust is a part of our selve survival instinct. It is self serving.

Because people mistake themselves for bodies, they try to get close to each other through sexual activity. You can only merge completely with another at the spirit level. Body based activity has nothing to do with merging with another, even though people sometimes set up such parameters in their minds. The place where we feel love, our awareness, is the very same place that we merge with each other.

If we want to find where true happiness, peace and love come from, we have to be willing to let go of some of our attachments. If we believe we can obtain what we really want by clinging, we are only fooling ourselves. A big part of spiritual growth is being willing to let go so we can find out about greater ways of being.

Either we can love one person/soul sort of a lot, or we can love all people/souls completely.

The spirit beings I've made contact with don't have physical bodies, and therefore, they don't have sexual organs.
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Reply #13 - Nov 17th, 2008 at 8:42pm
 
When I read Recoverer's post I think it's actually important to make clear what one means with the term "sex". Recoverer took it in the narrow, physical-lust-drive-ego sense, while Vicky and me talked about a broader meaning of it. My example with those energy-field-bodies I could describe as a gentle, close, playful exploration of the other with still a kind of bodily component. I won't go that far that this and love cannot coexist, as Bruce tells it of love and fear.

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Reply #14 - Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:24pm
 
I'm getting into conversation a little late but I would like to get back to the original question. I have, both in dream and oob, had sex and it was exactly that. I could feel and taste another human body and it was as real as anything I have done in my waking life. As to the highest level? I do not know. Do we lose interest in such things on the other side? I do not know - but I have indeed experienced sex in "Otherwhere" as Kurt Leland coins it, and it is a fascinating experience.
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