Thomas,

Remember that there is a lot of other 'physical' reality like our. With differents rules and experiences. 

To know for sure that this is not a BST, I guess it takes more data and a lot of observations and experiences.

The thing about our physical reality is that there are almost an infinite amount of beliefs held by residents here, some differing greatly, others very similar.  My understanding of BSTs is that all beings residing in them share the same belief, which is simply not the case here.  It seems the only beliefs shared on this planet are the basic ones, such as we are in a physical reality on a planet in a solar system, we are governed by the laws of physics, we are biological creatures alive for a certain amount of time, ect... The beliefs that make BSTs BSTs vary greatly here, making your theory rather unlikely.  But that would be crazy if it were true!

I believe physical reality was purposely set up so it would have more solidity than the astral realms. This solidity provides a unique learning platform.  If this solidity didn't exist, we might as well stick to the astral and mental realms as a way of learning. When we return to astral and higher realms our minds play a bigger role in what we experience.  We vibrate/think ourselves to another location, rather than walk, drive, or fly to another geographical location.

BST=Belief System Territory, invented by R. A. Monroe for nonphysical systems which attract (ex-physical human) persons of the same belief; used for more the closed-minded type of people/beliefs in difference to Focus 27.
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I think you're right on alltogether. It's a question of defining the term I'd say. From a vantage point with a far outlook it would be appropriate to call our physical system a belief system, and from another viewpoint the more particular meaning of "BST" might be more appropriate.

My experiences of BSTs (now in the narrow sense) are not really extensive, but one thing I noticed: Nowhere in the BSTs which I came across, it's like here when someone leaves: The dead body. In most cases, I've seen people just disappear when they leave a BST, and as far as I remember in one case there only was a quickly fading shell/form of a left inhabitant. Any other observations of this?

Spooky

 I believe the physical is ultimately a BST, though not quite the same as the usual nonphysical BST's.  

 It may be helpful to think in terms of density/vibration differences and ranges, and Oneness against the play of individuality and differences.

 The physical is the most dense or slowest vibrating dimension.  Pure Spirit or pure Source awareness is the fastest vibrating awareness, and really is dimensionless because it is All Inclusive, and that which all originally sprang from in awareness.  

 Inbetween physical and pure Spirit are almost an infinite variation of shades, and ranges of vibration.   They are all connected though, and many of our Consciousnesses or "Discs" exist in the whole spectrum (some possibly don't) and the focus on one or the other, or on a combo, connects to the concept of time/space, especially when focussing on the slower vibrating dimensions.

The focus between any dimension or combo below that of pure Spirit sets up "relativity".  The slower vibrating the dimension one focuses in, the more time seems real and "set" or linear in nature.  Hence in the physical, in the slowest vibrating dimension, it seems the most "real", set, and linear in nature.

 On the seemingly opposite spectrum, of matter and Spirit, well they both have unique properties as compared to the middle shadings of the various other dimensions (which correspond to what most call the "afterlife").  

 Yet, i say "seemingly" because the physical, unlike Spirit, is temporal and thus really not a true "opposite".   It only seems that way temporarily.   All comes from pure Spirit, and eventually focuses completely back into pure Spirit.   That suggests that all the inbetween dimensions are ultimately illusionary in nature, because they are temporal in nature.  

 That means or suggest they are all belief system territories of one or another, but because the physical is the slowest vibrating one of them all, it has unique properties, just as Spirit has unique properties compared to all the inbetween.   Course these properties of the seeming "poles" are rather different in nature.  

 I believe the physical is both a creation of us erring Discs, but also with quite a lot of influence on part of Light beings who are now, fully and fully consciously working with Source and the purely Creative forces.    So, we manifested the extreme density or slow vibrating nature of the physical, whereas they have manipulated our reality to some extent, and perhaps are responsible for the unqiue properties of the physical awareness, and that unlike in the nonphysical, like doesn't immediately attract and beget like.  

  I don't fully know the answer to the last question/thought though.

Super thread, You-All ! (IMO  )

Thomas, can you go back there and seek out a city / grouping where there are landmarks that might correspond with sites we have here?  In other words, how closely would our BST mirror our C1? have you looped into a parallel place?

Is this 'comparison' causing trouble with our beleif systems?
I always thought it was 'others' that we visited.
If this is a truth being revealed now I believe that we are ready to hear it.

Thanks to All!

Bets

Thomas,
i recall this theme coming up here a couple of years back, and i still feel the same.  C1 is a BST, and every astral plane is a hollow heaven once you've outgrown its parameters.
the only unchanging existence is the "uncreated"  "unmanifest" "radiant void" "godhead"  (take your pick of names), where we are points of golden light in a sea of golden light, blissed out with no desires or ambitions.
I believe the place you visited is one of the lower astrals, fairly dense and filled with egos chock and block with desire.  Were people flying there or doing any mental creation activity that you noticed?
Just curious.

best wishes, gordon


tgecks wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 9:52am: