I really want to believe that it is possible for me to not exist for all of eternity if I don't want to. Do you think this is the case?!

how do I think differently/?!? and if i have already lived for eternity yet am still not ok with it, how can i ever be?!

JustineS, No problem if that is truly what you want. You can create any existence you wish. If that be nothingness, then I see nothing  in your way of doing just that.Where problems could stem from is in those you leave behind. Those who are a part of you. They will not benefit from your non existence and possably may be held back from progressing beyond where they are by your choices. If I may be so bold as to suggest, complete your many lives missions and assisting those who are apart of your being, before you decide on ending your existence. Remember, action, reaction. What you do effects many along the way. Still, the choice is yours. There is nothing to force you to "be".
Joe

JustineS,

JustineS wrote on Oct 7^th, 2008 at 3:33pm:


For me the key to what you say is contained in the meaning of the word "me."   Who or what is this "me" that you don't want to have exist for eternity?  

A thought experiment:  Imagine that the who or what you perceive yourself to be today changes over the next five years.  And five years from now you come back to this site and read what "you" typed about not wanting to exist for eternity.  Imagine that the who you are five years from today has changed so much into a new "me" that this future you barely recognizes the "me" who typed that.  That me could be said to have in a sense "ceased to exist for eternity" or is "on the way to ceasing to exist" ?

Imagine that there might be parts of this future you that you like enough to be willing to allow that part of "me" to continue along on your ride toward through eternity.

Like I have said before, I might have chosen to incarnate here as a vacation from eternity.  Between lives the fact of our eternal nature might be a matter we are more consciously aware of.  In this physical world we trick ourselves into believing we are not eternal beings, hence a "vacation from eternity."

Maybe, since we are all eternal beings, like it or not, it would be more useful to be thinking about how I would like to spend eternity instead of fantasizing that we can avoid it.

Bruce

JustineS:

I don't know you well enough to make specific suggestions, but I've found that in order to see myself out of a box I created, I need to step out of the box as much as I can in order to see the box clearly.  Perhaps there have been some out of the box moments you've experienced that you aren't remembering.

Have you ever known a person who won't let go of a romantic relationship that has come to an end? As long as this person thinks according to the thought patterns that say "I must have this relationship" this person can't find freedom from this relationship. As soon as this person finds a way to become free from this thought pattern, it no longer troubles this person. The same can be said for any thought pattern a person limits his or her self with.

Is it easy finding freedom from unwanted thought patterns? Not always. This is part of the challenge of living in this World. The challenge helps our spirit grow.


JustineS wrote on Oct 7^th, 2008 at 4:36pm:

JustineS, You are not "forced" to be. You are. You exist. Doubtful, although not impossible, that that will change any time soon. (Some have suggested that there are alien forces attempting to do just that.) If by what you mean is not having a physical life experience as in the human form again... That is up to you. As Bruce's experiment could point out is that a lot of it rides on just who "me" is, and wants. And when that "me" no longer exists due to the changes within. I am not the same person as I was ten years ago. Those  thoughts and energy have changed, and in so many ways, no longer exist. Like Bruce's experiment.(?) I also believe the interpretation of "exist" plays an important roll here, and what "exist" means to you. Do you mean exist as a human? Exist as an entity? Exist as love? When I said that there would be no problem creating any existence you wish,....you would still exist. Only without being, having cause and effect. Limited existence, could be by believing that by projecting yourself as say, a fleck of sand,  that the energy imputed to you could be so small or insignificant to your currant state of awareness, that it could feel like non- existence. Not that the sand has no existence. It does. Yet it impact on your spiritual development and progress could be far more limiting than an existence as a human. Although, perhaps all existences are necessary at one point. (Having had a oak tree communicate with me at TMI during an exploration session, I understanding is that everything exists as life energy.) So again, its about what you interpret as "exist".
Joe

JustineS wrote on Oct 7^th, 2008 at 3:33pm:

Justine be carefull what you wish for...your wish for eternal nothing may stem from your present life and its fears/concerns/unhappiness.As Bruce so eloquently and beautifully said you are ignoring the fact of "ETERNAL CHANGE"! Your anxiety appears to come from a fixed belief that eternal life will be "Justine as she is now forever" I have meditated on that concept  a lot in the past.Then experiences came to me that taught me how wrong I was too fear that.Imagine you have already had many lives,you may or may not have any recall on them but if you did you would come to know that this life of yours "Justine" is one of many that have been lived before in space time.This is a sound reason we don't easily remember our past lives.Each life on this Earth level needs to be lived as a Divinely separate / complete existence..Discontinuous from the past , this is the way we can learn important lessons in the art of living,unhindered by past lives.Its like in school we go from class to class learning about different subjects..e.g. they don't teach Math in English class do they?Same with the Eternal University..Justine you are confronted right now with a beautifull lesson, please treasure your need for knowledge...you have created this conundrum for your own spiritual evolution,this is your personal private path you need to walk.Rather than approach your fear/concern  with such desperation and unhappiness why not just let go and let God?Your fear implies that you know better than ,what would you call it?I will say the unimaginable creator/energy /the underpinning of all that is. or as commonly stated  ..."GOD"..Just be prepared to look/.meditate /pray/ask/ for answers..If you truly ask for an answer to your fear and when you ask sincerely and deeply your answer will come.Don't expect the answer to come in any form you have observed before...for you this "NEW"..You see you cannot be at peace with your fear until you have had an answer from the Great Unknown...then your heart will be full of joy because the answer came from beyond your "Justine everyday self"Your suffering is good because it won't leave you till you get your answer!! You see the most important realizations often come when we suffer the most.The pain is your resistance to the Truth of What Is.All pain is only resistance to Truth.Just stay focused on your concept.You are nearly home.
Thankyou for sharing your fear with us...it gives all of us an opportunity to deepen our understanding,we all share this at times.
All LOve
Devayan.