Alan McDougall wrote on Jun 9^th, 2008 at 12:44pm:



and........

5) Pieter Willem Botha ("The Big Crocodile") ?

6) O. Bin Laden ?

7) Judah (Hebrew: יְהוּדָה)?

8) The Sanhedrin Trial (Jews people who killed Christ) ?

9) Castro Brothers ?

10) The Borgias?

11) Gaius Julius (Caligula)?

12) Mao Tse-tung ?

13) Hồ Chí Minh ?

14) Duvalier?

15) Jonas Sabimbi?

16) Che Guevara?, Count Dracula ?, W.L. Lenin ? Ivan "the Terrible".................................

I think it is best to "forgive", this is the best option, the list is endless depending on the viewpoint of everyone, love and forgiveness THAT IS THE ANSWER.

FORGIVE - LOVE 

juan

Joe most people think God is a man who sits around all the time.God is pure spirit with a plan for mankind.everything happens for the good of man,in the long run.George

..that everything you see, hear, touch, taste, smell, or

sense in any way is an aspect of Divinity.

It is when you judge it to be something else that it shows

up as something else in your life. Therefore, judge not,

and neither condemn.


For that which you judge, judges you; and that which

you condemn will condemn you. Yet that which you see

for what it really is will see you for what you really are.

And therein will be found your peace.

Sending love,
Nanner

Without judgement and without ego. I would think that most of our beliefs will be well left behind once we truely pass the area of focus 26. Isn't the beief in "heaven" itself really limiting your true self to an area in the BST? Moving through the areas is great but I woulden't want to stay there for all of my existence.(?) And if heaven is just perhaps focus 26, then is going to heaven a thing that should be desired or sought?
Joe

I wonder the same thing, Joe. Whenever I begin to describe my own view of heaven to friends or family it never seems to match their idea of heaven. I like some of their ideas of heaven very much, though.

But, I do wonder about it, wonder what I really know anyway? If we are so conditioned by our experiences here on earth to like, love, dislike, hate this or that or the other....and if our experiences in the afterlife are at least in part created by our own consciousness, our own thoughts, how are these afterlife experiences colored by our conditioning?

There are lots of accounts of an afterlife in which what is "impossible" here is possible there, such as the blind being able to see, etc. etc.

How long does it take for our "conditioning" to fall off of us?

From what I read and experience, we are not alone, at least at certain stages of experience in the afterlife. And it doesn't seem like most people are greeted in the afterlife by "aliens" or creatures they don't recognize. We find ourselves, if this is all to be believed, many of us, in conditions which are lovely and familiar enough to bring us happiness. Familiar in that we can appreciate through new senses many experiences which bring wonder or satisfaction.

But, yes, I wonder what lies beyond. What "all" is there?