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« Created by: Terethian on: Feb 8th, 2008 at 1:47am »

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Terethian
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How to prove there is an afterlife... or not.
Feb 8th, 2008 at 1:47am
 
First off I have not been able to follow through with my medium testing as I do not have the money. Once I do however I will be posting all of the taped and documented information which I receive in the hopes that it will help people.

1. Have someone that is dead that was close to you and you are certain would attempt to communicate if it was possible.

2. Research and find the top rated mediums that are closest to you and set up appointments.

The medium must be willing to communicate information and facts on to you with NO information regarding the dead person. Also note that there are several possibilities regarding mediums. Let us assume that a medium is getting 100% correct information and you did not tell them anything. We can deduce logically that one of the following options must be true:

1. They are able to read your mind. All of the information regarding the dead person comes from your mind.

2. Each person that has lived in this world leaves behind a sort of essence and the medium is able to pick up on this. The person is still gone and no real consciousness exists.

3. The medium is actually contacting the conscious spirit of your loved one.

In order to scientifically perform this test I will be attempting to do the following:

1. Prior to the meeting with the medium I will ask the spirit to come.

2. ****During the meeting I will periodically switch between singing nonsense words in my head and creating fake people. This is a necessary precaution because logically the only way I can rule out the mind reading theory is to cloud it out. If throughout all of this the medium is still able to pull out the real information that will be a very impressive and positive sign.

(****According to reported testing of mediums which I have read on the internet mediums can be fooled into bringing up names of fake people thought up in the persons head. This leads the question of whether they do get the information from the spirit consciousness. However it is also simply possible that the consciousness energy is all relative so it is simple enough for a medium to hear what we are thinking in our own mind but also hear the spirit thoughts as well.)

The bottom line is that I hope my research will prove fruitful and point towards the continued existence of the human consciousness and the loved one that has passed for me. If you notice I am very careful not to give out any details of the dead even with this forum post. This is exactly and all that I will tell the medium. I will not even specify if it is a family member or not. Or even if it is a human being for that matter.

Anyways, feel free to write your opinion or personal experiences.
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Re: How to prove there is an afterlife... or not.
Reply #1 - Feb 8th, 2008 at 2:05am
 
Hi  Smiley

I will be looking forward to reading your non-biased research results here on the board.
Wishing a great day,
Nanner
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Reply #2 - Feb 8th, 2008 at 4:10pm
 
I for one am really looking forward to the results of this research!

Try not to limit your testing to just one medium.  Mediums are only Humans at the end of the day and some can have on and off days just like the rest of us.
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Reply #3 - Feb 8th, 2008 at 5:02pm
 
I plan on visiting with many major mediums that are well known and are willing to accept a full interview without receiving any information from me. I may limit myself to ones that are willing to undergo recordings however as I only wish to do this if I have some sort of documented experience.

I may even explain to them my goal which is to prove to myself and perhaps help others believe in an afterlife. If I do get good data I will probably post it and have it made publicly available for free. I have no interest in making money and the only thing I would consider is possible a donation option in case I have hosting fees etc.
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Reply #4 - Feb 8th, 2008 at 5:11pm
 
Terethial,

You must put question in your pole section they are just lying there in the void.

I believe it is impossible to objectively prove the reality of the afterlife. But one can "know this subjectively" by having a profoung near death experience as I have. Dont you think Bruce Moens studies and experiences are not  proofs?

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Reply #5 - Feb 8th, 2008 at 5:19pm
 
Terethian,

Have you stopped and considered what is mind reading, what is mind - per se, and how would/could one "read it."  Somehow to invoke this makes it a known entity in the physical world.  Physiology does not explain mind reading.  The neurochemical patterns are complex.  

I would start this way.  Where is your mind?  How can it be "read," in the physical world (by what mechanism? Merely invoking ESP, says nothing scientific - as the definitions of ESP vary - see our ESP thread)?  

What you are trying to do with mediums is what Bruce, the creator of this board suggests, which is exploring for yourself.  The only problem I foresee is one of belief systems.  If you go into this with a belief that it is all ESP or fakery, your chances will be that much less to be open to an ADC.  To be truly objective, you must be open to both possibilities - it may be hard for any of us to be completely objective.

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Reply #6 - Feb 8th, 2008 at 6:07pm
 
Well the only way I am going to truly believe in anything is if I can prove it to myself through my own testing.

I am very open minded. I am willing to accept every theory which I have posted.

I am also able accept many other theories as well. All I need is proof. Which I will struggle to achieve.

1. I am willing to accept there is a God. If you can prove it to me.

2. I am willing to accept here is an afterlife. If I can prove it.

3. I am willing to accept the universe acts like a parallax so that if you continue in the same direction you will eventually wind up where you started. (if you can prove it.)

4. I am willing to accept the universe has no end and no beginning and continues on forever. If you can prove it.

(Ok the list goes on and on. As you can see by my very powerful imagination I am willing to accept any and all possibilities as long as I can scientifically back up the claims with proof. I will be attempting to reach this proof for myself and others.
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2008 at 6:10pm
 
Hi Terethian I am a practising medium at the moment as im still sitting in circle at the church but i dont always get it right but i definetly dont read minds and also i have had an outofbody experirnce and we definetly all of us have a spirit that leaves the body at death and goes to the afterlife,i can say this with certainty in a way because i have communed with spirit.

Love and God bless   love juditha
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Reply #8 - Feb 12th, 2008 at 6:52pm
 
Actually If anyone thinks they can attempt to contact the special being that was so close to me which is dead and would like to try and get information message me and I will tell you if you are correct. I'd be more than happy if people can get correct information.

What I will tell you:

I loved this being.
This being loved me.
Her life was cut short.
She died a few years ago.
I miss her so much.
Also I feel a little guilty.

So now you know it's a her.

She will know me by my name, Mitch.
When I meet with a medium I will not be telling any information but it seems to me that if a person was going to attempt contact without any information from a distance that they would probably need some information. I will also send out a message to the dead being to hopefully help.
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