Nanner wrote on Jan 29th, 2008 at 9:14am:Hmmm, depending on how one interprets the bible, it can be read as being "right there" infront of the eyes, that "the afterlife" exsists however most take it as being a "death sentence" out of disobedience and act accordingly to that thought process.
Take a look at it from that viewpoint for a moment. Not reading the verses from a religious standpoint but rather a non biased spiritual one.- The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek him: your heart shall live for ever. Psalms 22:26
- Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. Psalms 23:6
- Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore. Psalms 37:27
- The Lord shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in from this time forth, and even for evermore. Psalms 121:8
- Thy dead [men] shall live, [together with] my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew [is as] the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Isaiah 26:19
- Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24
- Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 6:47
- Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? John 11:25-26
- To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: Romans 2:7
- For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. 1 Timothy 4:8
Just a few of many references to "eternal life" meaning that after the "life of the body there is a continuation". Can anyone relate some of the teachings of Bruce to these phrases. As Bruce and all the other wonderful teachers simply "use" different words of today for the same topic. Reading it that way - one like myself, would just have to come to the conclusion that the translation of the bible was meant as a guide to understand the difference between a healthy "(spiritual) life" verses that of an "unhealthy (spiritual) life".
Ladies and Gents - your comments please.

Nanner
Hi Nanner, i believe some of the Bible quotes are referring to the nonphysical dimensions and life continuum. Some are referring to the creative nature of certain choices and their creative fruits, i.e. they are "life giving", and this can be taken in both literal and symbolic ways, and vice versa with other choices beign "death giving", meaning both literal for incarnate humans and symbolically meaning a limited awareness and consciousness, a temporary loss of consciousness.
Then this leads to more particularly some of Yeshua's sayings about eternal life. Some of these i believe, where referring the fusion of both the literal and symbolic aspects of the above. Hence full awareness and continuuity of consicousness.
This has the affect, for a "human" to transcend what is considered by the collective incarnate humans as "natural laws" of life, death, etc.
Meaning pretty simply, that if you really live like Yeshua did, like him you will transcend physical death, and be both active and aware in "physical" and in "nonphysical", and its really that the differences between the two melt away. Your perceptions and your experiences of the physical change.
It's like you are not living in the holograpic projection anymore (the physical), but now totally operating from the Light behind, beyond the projection.
So, physical death just doesn't happen. This is the truest indication of a spiritual teacher and their degree of attunement to Source and to PUL. If they transcend physical death, and "glorify" the physical body, the holograpic projection.
The only difference between what we call physical energies, and nonphysical energies, are in the vibrational rates and polarity balance ratios. So, if we live like Yeshua did, we can speed up the vibrations of what we perceive in error as "physical", and release back into its true nature, pure Light.
Life is awareness and consicousness, Light is awareness and consciousness and connectedness, Love is awareness and consciousness, and connectedness. So, if we are cocnentrating our awareness in the stream of vibrations called physical, we can, we have the potential, if we live and choose LIFE giving choices, to become life personified. This translates materially into "non death" both physically speaking, and having no loss of consciousness or awareness. We then open up to all awareness of all dimensions simultaneously, and in a perfectly balanced manner.
Yeshua taught and brought some very deep stuff into the World. It was a fulfillment of the earlier promises giving to the Jewish people. A lot of teachers before him, both Western and Eastern had been perceiving (to various degrees) and talking about such things, but he was the one to live it to the nth degree, and in doing so transcended all that is limiting and unCreative.
The last to be overcome in this world is physical death...if you attune to Source and PUL enough (both in degree and in consistency).
Or, if one doesn't like a Biblical approach, then you can check out Bob Monroe's last book. In his last book, he talks about asking his Greater self to meet the most spiritually mature person living in his time space cycle. He was told ok, but it might not be what you expect.
He ends up talking to someone who for all appearances is physically alive and incarnate like we are, but who is some 1800 years old, hasn't "recycled" (reincarnated) in that time period, doesn't need to eat nor sleep anymore, and has total mastery and control of their energies.
Btw, this same person, seems to hint that there will be severe and challenging changes coming to humanity, stuff that will force "recognized necessity" upon humanity. This person seems to hint that's the reason for (it's) waiting, the time will come.