Robert Monroe wrote of receiving ROTEs of information from the spirit beings he communicates with.  At this time I rely more on the visual imagery I receive, because I don't have complete faith in my ROTE unraveling ability.  Has anybody found a way to be certain that they are unraveling a ROTE accurately?

Hi recoverer Could you tell me what ROTEs means as i dont know,i've never read any of Robert Monroes books,i will have to see if i can get hold of any,i will try the library.

Love and God bless  love juditha

Hi R-
Now that you've writ about ROTEs I can understand what you wrote.

I get somethingbizarre. A few years back I went to Dr Shelley Stockwell's "Spiritual Counselor" seminar in San Jose - I was a token male in a female environment. (Works for me!) I figured that Shelley, who is a very competent hypnotherapist, would do some experiential stuff, and that it would be smoke and mirrors, not much else. So I did what was being done and soon and was more or less neutral about it all.

Now, starting a month or so after the seminar, I find that as I work on my math, generally as a meditative exercise, I get different influences that have their own styles of handwriting. One is meticulous and draws characters slowly, another is sort of square and solid, then there are a couple that I recognize by the strange slant of their letters, and soon, plus an occasional input from my Father who died in the '70s, recognizable from the shape of his letters.

My only invitation to these guys was that anyone who wants to hang out with me is welcome, providing that they don't mind being equated with nothingness and will work with me as opposed to against me. That seemed to clear away a lot of hangers on, and the rest have remained.

So I guess that I'm writing ROTEs in my notes.

dave

I remember getting thrown a rote, feels like a ball of energy, sometimes  a few words I remember within the experience, words mixed with scenes, images, people, but I always know I'm supposed to remember this. then unraveling it occurs within my waking C1, but only to the extent that I have the strong feeling this is important to unravel and work with. it may take a lot of time and meditation to unravel it fully. its like you eat it, then the assimilation period is digestion in C1...the two realities work with each other.

I work a lot with dream symbols too, these are different than rotes a bit. there is some veil or mechanism which does not think it's important, when you're half asleep. but if I wake enough to jot it down on paper, one or two words, later in the afternoon an entire rote comes swooping down from the few words I've written...and I'm always surprised I remember so much more, but later on.

I seem to be good at just getting one word from spirit. the other day, this is nothing really but did surprise me. I got the word sentence, "she has a carbuncle."

I didn't know what that mean. I heard a female voice. I had a carbuncle on me butt. I went to the dictionary. its like a pimple caused from sitting in pantyhose too long at the puter, for one cause. I went online and theres a whole group of people with carbunkles, lol!!! I found about a dozen cures for it.

just thought, wow, guidance there for sure, as you don't want to be sitting on carbuncles, thats for sure. 

   I've received some 'rotes', but rarely in the way that Monroe described.  Only advice i have is, the more one brings up PUL within self, the clearer one and one's perceptions will get in regards to any and everything.  For me, this takes a balance of meditation, and then service in the outer world.
  Service can mean many things, sometimes it can be very small stuff.  A quick personal example, which we all have done sometime or another (but something most of us could stand to practice more and more consistently).
One of the parents with whom i work with their special needs child, has been strapped lately because his wife is abroad and he is left with the 3 kids, 2 of which have special needs and the other a teen, and he has a job.  While my ego/personality self didn't want to work Saturday because i would be working Sunday (and i had already worked all the other days) with another person and i wanted to spend time with my wife/best friend, i still volunteered and helped him out and it wasn't about the money at all.    

  As far as being sure and all that, dunno, that's a hard one to answer.  It seems for many, it's just a gradual process just as becoming open and trusting towards guidance is in general.  The more verifications we receive (which aren't necessarily hard data that one could put into a study and conclusively say, verified), the more trust and sure knowingness developed.   

  This above seems to be the most common pattern, unless one comes in the Earth from some very, very expanded and very fast vibrating dimensions, and in those cases trust and deeper holistic awareness and good perceptive ability is somewhat strongly built in from the get go, though even then there is still a process of opening up and learning ever more trust and faith.  Such was the case with Yeshua.   An interesting E.C. reading talks about John the Baptist and Yeshua, and says that even in John did one find doubt at times, but there was no doubt and fear in Yeshua.  Perhaps played a large part in Yeshua transcending what John didn't?

  So i guess a part of it all, is to just let go of one's doubt, by focusing on believing.   Reminds me of another E.C. reading where someone asks his guides, "how i can i stop worrying so much?"   His guides replied succinctly, "stop worrying".   Funny how simple it really is, but how complex it can seem or how we make it for ourselves, isn't it?

Thank you everybody for your responses.

I believe part of the problem is that I think barriers are there that aren't. Sometimes I expect the volume to be turned up when I receive a thought message, even though there have been numerous times where it was clear that I received a thought message without the volume being turned up.

I get what Alysia says about unraveling a ROTE as time goes by.  You don't have to unravel it right away. It is there when you are ready to do so. There have been a few occasions where some time passed before I unraveled one.

I get what Ahso says about tuning into love.  Even though I often receive visual answers, sometimes I'll ask a question and open up to love and a vast feeling, and receive no visual clues or thought at all. I believe the point of this is that I can find the answer inside without having it sent to me, when I allow myself to expand in such a way.

Dave's answer reminds me that our access to spirit communication is always there, and it is up to us to decide who we communicate with.

Old Dood sounds like a stranger in a strange land. Here's a "GROK" from RH.   I bet you RH got a surprise when his life was over here.

In a way, Vicky summed up what Alysia and Ahso said.

I like the Glowing ball thing Spooky wrote.  I figure the way he perceived things has more to do with reality than a bunch of spirits walking around as if they are still body based humans. I've never opened up a golden ball like Spooky has. Perhaps tapping into our higher self is the same thing. He saw the process of doing so in a symbolic way.