love this thread u started Nanner. u r good kid!!
welcome here Rei. hope u enjoy it here and stay a long time. Personally, although I love intellectual stuff and throwing ideas around, what I like best is personal experience stories such as what Rei offered about the hornets and then Rei relates it to what he or she picked up from Christian Science, one of the newer religions on our Earth right now.
I belonged to The Church of Religious Science for awhile Rei and I think there are some similarities between the two doctrines. At any rate, no matter what religion one holds, prayer is a working dynamic there, related to meditation.
I don't claim to be with any religion right now, but see TMI affiliation and Monroe's and Moen's books as a kind of movement of consciousness. (doing service of retrievals and healings of the kind you mentioned, through prayer which is also like Reiki and like a thing some call absent healing.
Theres also a silent movement called the Church of Spiritual Humanism I joined, and just for the joy of it ordered my certificate of ordination, and just as you are a reader, so too we all become in our souls to say namaste, we all stand where god stands. all Im saying by this piece of paper is I am a human who is also divine and we are all together in it.
I think its so cool you do the readings, sounds like fun to me!
Rei said: CS teaches that we are in a dream right now. We have a unique existence, but this isn't it.
The amazing ability of Christian Science Prayer, which is similar but unlike what most people think of as prayer, to change seeming physical reality, proves to me that this seeming existence is not as real as it seems.
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I agree with you. CS looks like ACIM, a Course in Miracles theosophy, as well Monroe of TMI supports ACIM. ACIM teaches the same as CS to say we are in a dream like world. the correlation to that statement with what comes from TMI, is we exist in C1, a limited perceptional world, with the attending supposition we begin to advance towards a more unlimited perspective during our individual developments and through our experiences that we use to prove to ourselves that what we are learning is true. we are more than just our bodies is another simpler phrase we use here, which I find so helpful.
I've found the dream is unique also and although while it possesses it's unreal quality (nothing real can be threatened, nothing unreal exists. ACIM quote)
it is not to say life here is not valuable because we then become so eager to find what it is that is real. In my case love is the only reality, a thing we call PUL here, which stands for pure unconditional love energy of a conscious state of process of being.
we used to say in Religious Science regarding prayer:
1) treat (define what u want)
2) move your feet
thats about all I really got out of my church, and btw, we had 1,000's of members and 2 church services in Denver on a Sunday..place was rockin!
getting off topic, sorry. Nanner asked about acceptance of each other in the afterlife areas: my opinion is it's easier to love one another on the other side than it is here and that we live in our disc groups or small groups of souls who come into the earth planes together and aid each other in life reviews inbetween dives down here. I think or imagine I have 12; we all counsel each other or make suggestions but it's more fun than like being judged before a court, its family reunion time. I don't imagine even that the question of acceptance/rejection comes up on the other side that much, of other groups as each group is focused in attention on their own little turf, so to speak. (my pov) it is here that Ian mentions the challenge aspect of an earth life where acceptance/rejection becomes an issue and politics we have here, but not so much there. (unless theres a special bst for politicians? HAR! bst means belief system territory.
I agree with Ian, I'll put in a plug for The Sacred Path of the Warrior. it goes along perfectly with spiritual humanism concepts, in that the warrior of light looks toward the rising sun rather than the descending sun and uses his errors as stepping stones to become more than he/she thought they were.
thanks again for that amazing miracle story of the hornets and how you were healed so fast. One definition of a miracle is #47 (this kicks!) the miracle is a learning device that lessens the need for time. it establishes an out-of-pattern time interval not under the usual laws of time. in this sense it is timeless.
back in my late 20's I heard my inner voice say to "expect a miracle."
and you had your self a miracle my friend! I have been awaiting reports of miracles for 30 years, so I think I begin to see more of this kind of thing, as we look to the miracle and the changes I am calling the shift in consciousness.
thanks again the chance to talk here and all the fine contributions which give me thought and inspiration and a feeling of comradeship. love, alysia