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Dec 6th, 2007 at 3:16pm
 
I have a serious question that relates to other threads that I have read on this site.  People talk about projecting PUL, or feeling love to elevate a vibrational state when confronted with a demon (which is a side issue - at the moment I'm interested in feeling/producing love).  I know that there seem to be times of my life when I'm able to produce loving feelings more than others, depending on if I'm doing things I should/shouldn't be doing.  But I find it hard to just feel love, or project love.  I've read in one of Bruce's books (his Afterlife Guide I think) that we should think about a time in our life when we have felt greatly loved or very loving towards someone else (I think this is probably the best advice I'll receive, but who knows).   And since love is such a high value emotion in Bruce's thinking as well as most of the major world religions, I was wondering -

Does anyone know personally of practices that have helped them to feel more loving towards other people and / or increase the amount of love they experience?
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Reply #1 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 3:51pm
 
Pratekya:

I've found that it isn't always easy to grow in love. One thing that is necessary is to get rid of our fears. I've found that fear can cause us to have heart chakra blocks that prevent us from experiencing love.

It is also important to get rid of judgmental attitudes.  I don't mean that one can't use discrimination when one considers another. Rather, one has to develop the ability to see the faults in others, yet still love those others.  One does't approve of the negative actions of another when one does so. Rather,  one sees that the person who does negative things could do better if he or she had a better understanding of how to live his or her life in a loving way.

Related to this, I watched 60 minutes a couple of weeks ago. They had a feature on two young Islamic brothers who were hoping to become suicide bombers some day, and be rewarded in heaven with 72 virgins. They believed in such a way because their father taught them to believe in such a way. He also taught others to do the same. Is it fair to fault boys who are influenced in such a way? Sure one could say that "we always have a choice,"  but I bet you the statistics show that people who end up doing negative things, had their minds molded according to various negative influences.

My guess is that it was understood by the World of spirit that when two souls incarnated into the family of the above two boys, it is very likely they will end up developing the same attitude as their father.  Yet, two souls were provided, because what other choice was there? Perhaps the souls who take on the responsibility of living tough lifetimes, should be given more credit than they are given.

There is also the factor of how does God see things. I don't believe he sees anything as separate from himself. Therefore, when somebody manifests in a negative way within him, he sees this as happening to a part of himself. Therefore, love from the oneness standpoint means being willing to be one with everyone, including those who are currently manifesting in a negative way.  If a person has a "this person deserves what they get approach" they might have a hard time opening up to the oneness of all beings.

There is also the issue of wheter we live according to our primal nature, or our spirit selves. If we live according to our primal nature we'll live according to lust and a defensive me against the World approach. The more we are able to separate ourselves from such an approach, the more we'll grow.
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Reply #2 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 4:06pm
 
I think perhaps the human passing here in evolvement goes thru cycles of what is not-love, before finally understanding what is PUL.
we have variations or degrees of the emotion of love. it seems the universal eye keeps track of the smallest gesture of love though, and it brings in a type of law to boomarang back to the individual that practices that way.

I believe in the basic goodness of mankind and so that kind of focus acts to bring me evidence of that belief.
whereas on the other hand the basic goodness of mankind (PUL) is not reported for the most part in the media. So one of my practices is to not read what is not-love, such as a celebrity rag.

when on the path, and we all seem to be on a path of some sort towards death if nothing else, we share death and taxes in common. when on the path it is helpful to look at what is not love when we have felt slighted by another to whatever degree.
just in our personal life at first. We look for if there was any genuine love operating, we ferret it out mentally, so we can learn to recognize PUL on a more consistent basis, speeding up our brain frequencies, our mental areas to discover who we are.

PUL for me personally, seems to be a simultaneous release of judgment upon those situations in the past where I was hurt. I sought to understand how to avoid being hurt, by understanding the motives of the person who seemed to make me a victim.

then I would want to feel myself to be innocent of crime, and also the other to make innocent of crime, I would see us as one act. the relationship is one act. it takes two to tango in other words, so, the feeling bad of what is not love, slowly draws the consciousness into areas of what love is.
then forgiveness is another explanation for this kind of mental activity which releases you from obligation to one another, and as you know, being in a state of love, makes all things appear new...sometimes it means falling on your knees though. I admit it can be difficult. I like you asking this question. it helps me get clear also, I think you are on your way to a great area of your soul.

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Reply #3 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 4:12pm
 
I would like to bring attention here to the board Recoverer and I seem to be partners today. we are both posting at the same time, not only this thread but another one.
and saying the same things based on our individual understandings.

this is most hilarious to me and since I know my awareness sails outward during sleep cycles, I believe we are grouping together, the lot of us here and something good is coming from that. we are such a melting pot here, it's very uplifting.
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Reply #4 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 10:27pm
 
Greetings,

"Does anyone know personally of practices that have helped them
to feel more loving towards other people and / or increase the
amount of love they experience?"

Many of us come to PUL having experienced 'love' as full of risks,--- I sort of have to 'gather myself together,'
Smiley somewhat like when attempting a high dive at the swimming pool.  For a few moments I give myself a pre-PUL session, remembering as Bruce suggested an innocent time of feeling loved, then I still have to 'let my guard down,' allow myself to feel a bit vulnerable.

In a perfect world those attitudes wouldn't make sense as preparation for loving, but they are what is necessary
for me.

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Reply #5 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 8:18am
 
Pratekya,

pratekya wrote on Dec 6th, 2007 at 3:16pm:
I was wondering -

Does anyone know personally of practices that have helped them to feel more loving towards other people and / or increase the amount of love they experience?


I would start by saying the first step is just knowing the feeling of love from experience and practicing that feeling.  Like the exercise in the Guidebook, just remember at time you were feeling loved or loving and let the memory of feeling love help you to FEEL it again.  This is not about anything except re-experiencing the feeling of love.

But more to your question, feeling more loving towards other people.  In my view feeling PUL toward others is an issue of unconditional loving acceptance.  And at its most basic that is an issue of unconditional loving acceptance of Self.  If there is any part of myself that I feel I must hide from all others, what are the chances I will be able to accept that trait in others?  If I cannot feel love toward any part of myself, what are the chances I can feel love toward others with that trait?

So my dilemma became, once I realized there were parts of myself I believed were "bad" that I could not love and accept, what do I DO about this.  Tried lots of things that didn't work.  What worked, when I uncovered some part of my self I didn't like, was to acknowledge that part of myself as okay to be even if I didn't understand how it could be okay for any one to have that trait.  And then FEEL Love while accepting that part of myself as being okay to be.  

Why did that work?  In my view because of one of feeling Love's other effects is that it open and expands awareness automatically beyond my normal perceptual limitations.  What started to happen is that as I lovingly accepted those parts of self I began to see more clearly why each one was a part of me, how and why that part was created, what purpose that part of me served and to be in choice as to when I utilized that trait or part of self.  I have a "loving guy" part and I have a "raging murderer" part and there is a time and a place for each part of me to be.  Most people who know me say "Bruce a really patient guy" then again some have tried that patience long and hard enough to be introduced to the loud and forceful "Bruce the impatient guy."  By accepting that I can be loud and forcefully impatient when the situation warrants it I can be very patient when the situation warrants it.  I don't have to be denying that part of self that is impatient in order to be patient.  Maybe the same holds true for "loving others?"

As I continued this process of self acceptance my view of Self began to change.  The process of loving acceptance began to extend to "others" as I began to more fully realize that there are no "others."  

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Reply #6 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 8:26am
 
Hi Bets. Tibetan Buddhist Tonglen or 'giving and taking' is the practice I'm familiar with. http://www.shambhala.org/teachers/pema/tonglen1.php Pema Chodron writes well on this stuff.

I can say from experience that Tonglen is genuinely transformative. Giving love seems to follow the usual path of matters spiritual - we go from unconsciousness, to intellectual awareness and intention to with practice becoming a genuinely caring 'something else'.

It's not a small step, nor even an isolated aspect of our lives. You could argue that the spiritual path is about nothing except learning to live through love. Or as Bruce says remembering our natural state. The difficulty arises from the fact that almost all of our behaviour is habitual and conditioned - unfortunately by selfishness as this is mostly what family and society teaches us, and the view on which our whole culture is based. Not to mention the way the world (from one view) works.

As before I think the other issue that arises is that we almost inevitably as a result of the vicissitudes of life end up to varying degrees emotionally constipated, or blocked. We spend many years learning to turn a blind eye, closing down to the suffering of others to get ahead and so on and we pay a price for this.

Without this natural unthinking reflexive empathy for others it's tough to even become aware of our selfish non-loving behaviours. So a key step is the restoration of this wholly natural capability.

My experience with this has been that while I've still got a way to go that meditation, mindfulness Tonglen (especially overcoming a lack of self love), and help from others (spiritual healing) have delivered considerable progress. The indicator that you're on your way seems to be the emotional rawness I mentioned and posted the short verse on before. What I was getting at in the thread on heartache.

The 'extra normal' experience (the visit by my friend the tomcat, and the related start of communication) I described before  is involved too, but I don't know whether the heart opening that occurred with the start of it was cause or consequence....
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Reply #7 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 9:18am
 
Pratekya,

It has always been suggested that if a person consistently tries to elevate his/her mind by reading thoughtful books and keeping an eye toward beauty and all things good, that a sound mind results.

I think the more beauty you can soak up in this life as a human being, the more inspired you will be.

Another thing might be to stop and meditate on the people in your life as you go along. If you have a chance to sit with someone for a while, really look at your companion. Find the heightened awareness which will bring out before your eyes the nobility of the human being, the potential always there beneath this alternatingly still and moving canvas/mirror.

If you meditate on these things, living as closely as possible in the present moment, you will be full of love for your life and all your fellow creatures.

We are too "tired" for love, or too "irritated" by life, so often, to feel love.

But life is pure magic. It can be..........hmmmmn, now what was I talking about......oh, yes, love.

love, blink Smiley
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Reply #8 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 11:36am
 
Pratekya,

What I've leared is that in order to do anything well in life, I first need to be ok with my own self.  For me, being ok with my own self simply means that I sort through and organize the parts of my self and my life, take all areas of myself that end up getting scattered about and I really take a look at them.  It's especially helpful if I'm feeling badly about myself or something I'm going through and feel like I have absolutely no power over what I'm experiencing. 

It's just a simple meditation exercise that I try to do often.  It only means that I close my eyes and slowly think about this part or that part of what's going on in my life and I think about how I feel about it.  It could be broken down into categories like work, friends, my husband, my kids, my health, my house, my whatever.  And as I go through each section of my life and I look at how I've been handling things, what my reactions have been, how I could have handled things better for a different outcome, how I wish I hadn't made one mistake or another and what I can do to improve, etc, it all helps me to slowly integrate myself into one place of just accepting me and accepting that things are the way they are.  What always happens is I end up seeing that the only control I have over anything is my own feelings and reactions to those feelings.  So, if I don't like something about myself, I have to change how I feel or change how I react to how I feel.  It helps me to let go of stuff I'm holding onto that is just clogging the system, and then I can just focus on where my real power lies. 

After this little meditation exercise I get a sense of feeling like that scattered feeling is gone.  I feel integrated, loving, and accepting of myself.  In essense it humbles me.  When we can accept our own selves and feel love and patience for our own growth, then we can much more easily see and feel that in others. 

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Reply #9 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 1:26pm
 
Hi Pratekya,

There are slightly different approaches, which are all related, which i've found to help.  The most basic one is to realize and deeply feel and know that we're all part of each other, and part of Source.   And that when someone acts or treats you or another in an unloving way, it's not the real part of them that's doing it, and beneath this there is that love and connectedness with others.   I've found that it helps to bring up feelings of compassion, acceptance and love when someone or yourself is acting or temporarily being negative and unloving, because if you really think and feel on it, you realize that this is what causes all of us to suffer.

  This applies to self as well, just as much to others, because as some have already said, there really isn't "others".   

  And it's like anything in this life, the more you practice this, the more you hold these thoughts and feelings in your mind and heart, the better you get at it and the more consistently and automatically you will do it... Because after awhile, the subconscious self, the ruling part in most, starts to get reprogrammed in a positive and constructive way. 

  I've found that meditation and prayer centered around these attitudes, feelings, thoughts, and deep knowingness also helps in the whole process. 

  And since you are already a believer in and deeply respect Christ, i would say, ever look to his example and pattern in the Earth, and to how he lived in relation to his fellow aspects of Creation (and not just to humans btw).    Following and really sincerely trying to live a similar example and pattern will help to shift one into this core Reality.   You have to focus your whole being on it, deeply desiring to become it, and knowing deeply that that's what you originally were and came from.

  To some extent, all of us who are not in complete and pure resonation with the White Light all the time, are somewhat in the condition to varying degrees of that old saying, "the blind leading the blind".   Like attracts and begets like, and it always helps to look to those with full and completely clear sight.
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Reply #10 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 1:30pm
 
   And btw, much like Recoverer said, you don't have to become an active supporter of illusion to become loving and love personified, sometimes its more "loving" and kind to not support illusions or temporal negativity.   And sometimes to do that, you have to address that which is illusionary and negative, and point to a different way.
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Reply #11 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 2:27pm
 
Hi Pratekya,

To me love is more than an emotion.  It is the ground of our very being, our inner core essence from where our life energy and creativity flows.  It is the fountain of God deep within us that up wells and flows through our entire being.  This energy starts out as the pure influx of God, but as it moves down through the lower vibrations of our being it becomes distorted because of the fearful belief systems each of us has created either consciously or unconsciously.  And we’ve done this first individually, which then became the collective human condition in which we all exist.  Each of us as individuals has great power to change the world, but it must begin within each of us.  I think we make progress by understanding the mind of God and putting that understanding into action.

So what is the mind of God? That would probably be an interesting thread because all of our perspectives are individually unique. For me a primary aspect of the mind of God is impartiality.  By this I mean that there is beauty and perfection within every imperfection.  We see this in nature. Take the grain of wood for example.  Each is unique and imperfect from a standard of uniformity (values) yet each is beautiful and perfect within its own right. Seeing the impartiality of God brings us into a state of acceptance and sets the stage for us to experience love for all things. Which is the same as loving what is regardless of the circumstance.

As others here have mentioned, it begins with our self.  We are able to love and understand others to the exact same degree that we are able to love and understand our self.  My favorite affirmation/action to get your self love going is to stand in front of a mirror, look yourself in the eyes and say, “I love me just the way I am, no matter what way that may be.”  Above all, at least initially, allow yourself to feel good about yourself.  By doing this you are allowing the essence of your inner core (the impartiality of God) to flow freely and unencumbered.  Remember love flows through us automatically from our core unless we stop it.  The movement of this energy gives us pleasure.

A lot of the time we don’t allow ourselves to feel pleasure partly because we get bogged down with the way we view everyday life.  We might not be able to change someone else’s perspective, but we have great internal power to change our own.  Simply by using our intention to see and understand someone else and sending PUL to that person is not necessarily changing the other person, it is choosing to change our own perspective.  In turn, the other person may or may not perceive the change in us and with their intention may or may not act upon that in response.  We would not see the imperfections of another if we didn’t have these same imperfections within our self.  Understanding this is what gives us the power to create love and harmony in all areas of our life.  And that can happen rapidly.

I remember a woman that came into my office a few years ago who was really bogged down with what I’ll call everyday worries that we all have from time to time.  I made the suggestion that she try to take pleasure in all of the simple things that are always around her, like the blue sky with puffy white clouds, a bird singing, the beautiful wood grain of a door while waiting to see the dentist for example.  She took my advice and when I next saw her, she was a completely changed person.  She still had all of the everyday worries.  These hadn’t magically disappeared.  The change came in her focus.  Instead of focusing her constant attention on her problems, which brought her pain, she focused on the things that brought her pleasure.  The problems were still there, but now she was better equipped to deal with them.

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Reply #12 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 3:22pm
 
just sharing a bit more, its really a good thread for me, thanks for introducing it Pratekya. I remember some years back we had a gal Ginny was here, doing explorations and sharing. she mentioned one time how PUL expanded perceptions, producing even more PUL.

I had an aha moment as I flashed back to a relationship, how I had "felt" to be in love with just this one person. the mind had opened up to greater possibilities, as well in the mental dept and the emotional dept. that feeling the skys the limit, opens up the mind, everything is new and nothing gets you down. (while in love).

so I was having this aha moment to examine what it means when the honeymoon is over, so to speak, held up to how love makes you hear birds singing, the sky is bluer, etc, chores suddenly have a purpose, etc etc.
then I was thinking well, we all fall out of love for some reason, I wondered if we could be in that state of consciousness even without a lover.
this led me to contemplation on spirituality principles and a thirst for higher knowledge and a need to explore my inner self, thoughts, emotions, connections to higher self, my behavior, like Vicky describes, to look at my own self, might be causing a sense of unloving situations to come to my life.

then I did proceed onward that it is possible to have this loving acceptance for one's self and all others if they sense you accept yourself, that you are human as they are, like children I notice, they fight, then the next moment are great friends, they just accept each other, but adults get baggage or blocks to the awareness of love's presence behind the universe.

I guess it would be explainable from one viewpoint only, still doing a take from Vicky, that a process occurs. I would read as Bets mentioned while doing the necessary things, but I got in the habit of asking myself as an exercise: "what am I feeling at this very moment?" so I would check the thermostat inside there, so I would not feel like an automatic creature in a habitual state of climate.
If I found out that I was in a habit of feeling down on myself, I would ask myself why and some answers would pop up what issue I needed to work on to release, or work thru, or sometimes I would have apologize to someone as I'd said something stupid and now had to fix it. not stupid, but careless, to not consider people can always take it the wrong way even if you didn't mean it that way. its still taking self responsibility, which means I can't change another person, but I feel loving towards myself if I can change myself, then that allows the other to smile and thats PUL expressing.

so I suppose thats one way Pratekya. its like undoing an error that I made so the mind gets expanded and the emotional field sends and receives this energy to others, like Bruce said, an extension of self begins to happen without any effort, does extension happen, so it's almost like the higher self, for those who subscribe to this thought system, the higher self has implanted itself down into the denser, subconscious C1 self, and gradually, for my pov, the conscious mind and the subconscious mind begin an integration process and the monitor remains consistently in the middle, a good temperature to feel comfortable, or in control of one's life, destiny. another definition is forgiving self..which follows easy to have compassion for others then.

but the main point is the aha moment. I like the expanded feeling when I feel PUL.
you're not boxed into anything that way.

one last thought after I read Kathy who was posting the exact same time, I was taking a psychology class once and they said if a person feels they are in a rut, to start looking for ways to break out of the rut, practical ways, like driving a new route to work, taking the scenic route and conquering the small fear you are going to get lost maybe. then get lost, let that be, and experience the joy of finding the way back, the new route. these are just practical things to apply, like taking up the hobby you thought about, but just wouldn't do it for whatever reason. maybe I'm talking about taking a risk and finding out you did the right thing.
thanks Kathy! love, alysia
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Reply #13 - Dec 7th, 2007 at 4:58pm
 
Greetings -
  I've been very busy with work so I haven't had the chance to check this until now.  Thank you for all of the thoughtful and helpful responses.  It will take me some time to look more closely and think about what is being said here, but I think there is very good stuff to chew on.  Much appreciated Smiley
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