Dear Alan,

It seems to me only fair, and it would be of great benefit to you or anyone
who has had such an encounter with fear (such as I have had too) to at least try
reading our host's information on extinguishing fear with PUL.

You were free of such fears (of 'evil') during the grandeur and compassion of your
Near Death Experience-- but now has fear crept back in ? You are not alone in this
but you may have to take on the responsibility to change it. This is not a commercial
but I recommend Bruce Moen's books because they are what worked for me.
I found we do carry our own fears with us until we eradicate them with PUL.

I've read your websites and know from your words that you have tremendous Spirit. Such a
strong spirit can carry strong fears, so it is a huge struggle, Sir!  But it's not fair to you to continue
to ask yourself to deal with this burden. Many of us at this website have found a way to deal with
similiar situations---read the books. You have too much to offer to deliver it tainted with such fear.

Bets

Betson, I did not see your post before I wrote mine. 

I totally agree with you!

I agree there is a time where fear recedes during obe to be replaced with PUL, in the beginning of such a thing occurring, its usually not controllable so there is a natural fear of the unknown, as it approachs and this is why Alan expresses he does not feel like a normal person. maybe we need to throw away whatever normal means when on this sort of path to understanding.

you're question Alan is what are these beings that you saw as having independent life outside of your being?

I'm studying that. I have a full report later on, to the best of my ability and would be excited and thankful to share..later...and as you know, words can only say so much.

but briefly there is brought to my attention something called elemental, semi-intelligent matter. I don't know that I call it anti-matter composite, but possibly. will look into that also sometime.

the job of the elemental form is to work it's way into the physical plane, symbolically we can see it as a descending motion into dense matter, the most dense particles we can see as the mineral kingdom. when we see such beings, we fear what we do not understand, so the brain interpretor will produce sometimes an ugly face or figure because fear particles are able to take a thought form. fear, as well love, is a creative facet of the human being to master.

when we see these beings, they are real, but as you say, at the same time, not like a human ego, and they have a purpose to survive as a part of dense matter, but they have no aspirations for the higher planes, and they see humans as being the providers to help them descend further into matter; they gather astral particles around them for their form, which are generated from your emoting of fear, anger, etc.
they only thing they have which is remotely compares with your soul, is the instinct to survive on the astral matter they gather around them..from humans.

they are not evil, and you shouldn't hate them. they are just elemental stuff..its all around us in the air. they are easily to come under your dominion, your will by your further development and the PUL that protected you, is also you, your essence is PUL, you need not fear these beings any more than you would say, a fairy, a ghome, a nature spirit which also has a place in our world.

Also obe is really a pathway and the best way to avoid obe-ing to places you don't want to see, like the lower astral planes (unless you have a job there) is to in the daytime only think about the higher planes of thought, this places the mental obe body above the elementals in the lower astral is the only place they live.
but you already do this by your singing and what not. so keep it up!

love, alysia

Just to put thing in there true perspectives the episode with negativity I experienced was many years back and I have long overcome this and as you might have read, moved on into love and positivist.

I do not subscribe to any dogma, Hindu or otherwise but transliterate some of my stuff into Hindi so that I can dialogue with that enormous population.

However these three “things” were definitely not figments of me fearful imaginations, but I believe real demons

I  NOW SEE THE LIGHT

Regards

Alan

Greetings,

this recent thread again got me into thinking about a vivid dream I had, there were also three hooded dark entities involved, providing fear, anxiety and cold chills.

Strange, why it has to be three of them, it is a bit contradictory, as three as a number is also involved in "trinity", what is in fact the opposite of "darkness".

A hint of a struggle with faith/believing?

yours since