Juditha said: never new really whether it was me or the liver. 

i'm glad i kept my humor as laughter lifts the soul.

thats the spirit honey pie, now maybe I will change my tune someday, but its been really difficult for me in my life to actually take these relationships too seriously, as the rate of our own divorce statistic will show us, we need to go to marriage college before getting hitched up. Juditha, same here, I see u picked up on my cooking too. I too thought later, my burrito is the final straw for him!!

Without a doubt, no mystery there, it was the liver. In the kitchen. And the onions were in on it.

Those were the culprits, for sure, Juditha.

love, blink

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Spiritual intercourse would mean something more specific than universal charity. It would be special communion with the sexually complementary; something a man can have only with a woman and a woman only with a man. We are made complete by such union. The souls in heaven must still take on the aspects of male and female to make spiritual merging and the ecstasy of merging with another compatible soul joyful and glorious

The relationship need not be confined to one in Heaven. , monogamy is for earthly union.

The relationship may not extend to all persons of the opposite sex, at least not in the same way or degree. If it did extend to all, it would treat each differently simply because each is different-sexually as well as in other ways. I think there must be some special ``kindred souls'' in Heaven that we are designed to feel a special sexual love for. That would be the Heavenly solution to the earthly riddle of why in the world John falls for Mary, of all people, and not for Jane, and why romantic lovers feel their love is fated, ``in the stars'', ``made in Heaven''
But this would differ from romantic love on earth in that it would be free, not driven; from soul to body, not from body to soul. Nor would it feel apart from or opposed to the God-relationship, but a part of it or a consequence of it: His design, the wave of His baton. It would also be totally unself-conscious and unselfish: the ethical goodness of agape external, and without selfishness or animal drives.
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We know Heaven by earthly clues. Let us try to read all the clues in earthly intercourse. It has three levels of meaning: the subhuman, or animal; the superhuman, or divine; and the specifically human. (All three levels exist in us humans.)

Specifically human reasons for intercourse include the desire to express personal love. As to the first, there is no marriage in Heaven. As there can be no wrong in heaven spiritual, union between souls like soul must happen.

I think there will probably be millions of more adequate ways to express love than the clumsy ecstasy of fitting two bodies together like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
This spiritual intercourse with God is the ecstasy hinted at in all earthly intercourse, physical or spiritual. It is the ultimate reason why sexual passion is so strong, so different from other passions, so heavy with suggestions of profound meanings that just elude our grasp. No mere practical needs account for it. No mere animal drive explains it. No animal falls in love, writes profound romantic poetry, or sees sex as a symbol of the ultimate meaning of life, sexuality is a foretaste of that self-giving, that losing and finding the self,. That is what we long for; that is why we tremble to stand outside ourselves in the other, to give our whole selves, body and soul: because we are images of God the sexual being. We love the other sex because God loves God.

In addition, this earthly love is so passionate because Heaven is full of passion, of energy and dynamism... Earthly sex is the shadow, and our lives are a process of thickening so that we can share in the substance, becoming Heavenly fire so that we can endure and rejoice in the Heavenly fire of eternal spiritual sexual union with any soul mate we desire.
Please I am not being dogmatic on this topic but just put it out there for discussion and dialogue.
Alan

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u can't tell me u don't have feelings Dave, but u can tell me you don't think they're important.
emotions are tied into those critters we call belief systems. but surely I don't tell u anything new about emotions.

I wasn't clear when i get flippant. Oliver mentioned I sounded like Plato's ideas. and I then wondered again (I wonder this often) if I was alive and kicking in that era of Plato, so I got cute and said I was probably Plato's housekeeper.

It just occurred to me, it seems men don't express emotions very good, not in my experience, maybe thats because men are mostly left brained critters and women right brained? oh heck....we're in trouble then.

why can't men just accept burritos every single night and as well, pretend like they enjoy burned liver? then everything would be ok. 

Oliver, have some tea and crumpets! Blink, could you pass the strawberry jam?

love, alysia

I find it interesting when the conversation turns to sex on this board. I often read about the going to heaven and the sexual act being between man and woman there. This confuses me to some extent. I live happily with my wife and am what is called straight . I don't think that when Bruce wrote of his trips to the rock on the lake his experiences were like sex here on earth. His outie in her inny sort of thing. My understanding of the thing was the feeling of the generated love/PUL. The closest being the feeling of what he experienced during sex. Like when the pheromones are released during orgasm. That feeling of compleat satisfaction and fullness. To me the whole man ,woman thing showes the connecting still being strong with the in body state. I have felt the same feeling when shairing an OBE with a male friend who I went to TMI with. It wasen't sex. It was the PUL and the knowing that it was shared and without reservation. There was no body connection in my experience. Only the feeling of the same gratification I have felt through my experience of sex and shared love with my wife. The intertwining of our energys was so much more than what earthly sex has to offer yet sex feelings is one of the only things even close to relating to what I felt at the time. By the way, I have shared the feelings with a in body female also.
Would that make me spiritually bisexual 
Joe

Dear All!

A chapter out of my account of the afterlife.

I  enquired as to  whether we similar experienced pleasures in the spiritual realm as we do with our mortal bodies while on earth such as, good food, mortal love touch, taste, smell, sight, sex, would this all be lost if we took on ethereal or spiritual bodies. What about our friends, family, lovers, soul mates? Travel, homes etc, etc, etc what about boundaries of conduct was anything forbidden if sin was abolished? As there would no longer be evil or sin in heaven, nothing would be forbidden and we would be able to experience ecstasy, bliss and sublime joy as we mingle and merge completely with any one we wish. It is much and completely more intense, sustained and beautiful complete and wonderful than anything we could remotely liken to on the earthly plane. It is indeed very very exiting! Totally beyond the imagination of any mortal Then a total mystical union with the divine will become the norm and unions between spirit

Love

Alan