Greetings,

What are the ethics of going to a touristy haunted place like a hotel and trying to retrieve their stuck 'ghosts'?  Their reputations are established and would probably continue even if the ghost moved on. I realize we don't want to become a unit of ghostbusters but it seems like we shouldn't overlook the need, either---?

A syndicated article in the newspaper today told of ten hotels around the world where rooms are sometimes vacated by tourists who find they're sharing it with a spirit that is well-known to local staff. So lots of people have known there's a tortured soul caught there but apparently no one tries to help it. I thought after that movie wher the young boy could see dead people that living humans would show more concern.

(Also, a side issue is why do the haunted rooms' numbers all seem to have the number three?)

If you all don't see any ethical violation to cancelling out these 'tourist attractions', I'm going to try a few retrievals from this list. Anyone is welcome to do so too.
Below are a few of the hotels  and information, including one I'm adding so that I'm not being unfair to the tour agency that shared their info.

City       Hotel (Rm ##)        type of stuck spirit      beginning date

London   Langham Rm333     Victorian doctor          ? late 1800's
                  "                       German military         ?
                  "                       footman in blue          from 1700's

Bannff Springs, Canada
            Fairmont BS Hotel     beautiful bride in long white gown  ?
                    "                      Sam, the porter/bellman   early 1900's                                 
Asheville N Carolina USA
           Grove Park Inn          'the lady in pink           ?late 1800's to early 1920's?
Toftaholm, Sweden (Rm 324 
              Toftaholm Herrgard  Mats, a young stableman from 1750

Rome, Italy Parco dei Principi (Rm 523    'Jimmy'             unknown Friendly, playful

If you do such a retrieval could you post on this thread so we know which ones have been moved on?

Bets

Hello,

I do recall now that we had a go at this topic previously. So my memory has cleared and guidance has put in its two cents worth for this post---

Souls who attach themselves to a public place are able to pick up  alot  of energy
from so many people working and living around them. That they can be seen so often
is one indication of the amount of energy they've absorbed. Also in the above examples of haunted hotels, they have chosen to stay in opulence and luxury----well, their bodiless selves don't need luxury but they think they can take part in a world of such 'privilege' just by being there. Even if their original purpose for staying was to right a wrong done against them, most of them now are caught up in the daily activities around them.  They have so many connections to how they exist now that they are very very difficult to dislodge.

Most of the souls I've met in retrievals are happy to hear that they can get into the afterlife.  They are not so connected to the earth plane, rather just bewildered or scared to move on.
Guidance suggested that I pay attention to the ability level I have and let it develop through gradual experience. So I take back my previous offer to go get'um.  Let'um eat their cake.

Love, Bets

Yes John Kortrum does those things.
Taking tourists around the world on tours for investigation in those phenomenas and quite successful in the process.
He also send newsletters about his latest adventures in the land of the unknown.
Maybe if you contact him he will send you his newsletter Betson..
It's worth the try.

Much love Romain

Greetings---

Hi LoveME8,
Yes, it seems like the fire in your community could have left some spirits stuck and homeless. Tee-hee,   maybe this Halloween they'll come out. They aren't goblins of course, just stuck spirits who were once regular people. Are you ready to try a retrieval yet?  

Thanks Romain and Hawkeye for the lead on John Kortrum.
Couldn't find him at TMI's site but he has his own site now--- New Learning Frontiers. He doesn't talk of retrieving spirits but of 'stabilizing' an environment with geophysical meeans.  Does anyone know what that means?
It's off topic, but part of his site involves another favorite topic of mine---Ho Ho, now Horses rather than Hotels  

John Kortrum's EQUINE ENERGETICS shortened from his site:

"As a flight species, horses demonstrate a “hyper” level of sensitivity to their environment.  
At times, horses respond to stimulus we cannot detect with our own physical senses or for
reasons unknown to us. Developing an understanding of their perceptual sensitivity can
greatly enhance the relationship between horse and owner/rider.   
 
"Coincidentally, while investigating paranormal phenomena and correcting properties in
Virginia, New Learning Frontier encountered peculiar complaints from clients who owned equine farms.  Property owners
reported unseen stimulus only their horses were able to recognize....
 Examples of unseen stimulus include: horses would refuse to enter certain areas of the paddock,
for no apparent reasons, and would throw any rider that attempted to force the issue.  Certain
areas of an indoor arena were the source of all incidents and accidents that caused harm to both
horse and rider.  Specific stalls in the barn would sometimes result in illness to any horse boarded
in the space.  
"These are only a few examples....  In 2002, New Learning Frontier found that geophysical techniques
used to stabilize paranormal phenomena were also effective at stabilizing the landscape and restoring
harmony to the horses and their habitat."

Always something new to learn!

Love, Bets

Greetings,

Regarding the 'copper spirals and such', Spooky,

if a spirit has enough physicality to be seen upon occasion, as 'ghosts' do, wouldn't they be affected by magnetic fields and therefore by things that conduct magnetic force? But there certainly isn't much PUL involved in using that method on human 'remains'!  I know I have negative sensations with such electro-magnetic forces while I'm in the physical, (but as Romain predicted, even huge magnetic fields like at Uluru didn't seem to change anything while OB in either etheric or astral, etc.)
Hey,  Maybe old buildings are more comfortable to ghosts because there is less wiring and magnetic electronic forces in them---? Is that possible? So then it's not the spirits' taste in style that causes them to congregate in such places but that the old buildings are havens away from such gizmos?

Bets