some nice info at this site.  it wouldn't hurt to check it out.  hope you feel better soon.

http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=10

therapy can be quite useful, and it does involve you helping yourself.  i've done it, and it's nothing to be ashamed of or think of as a crutch.

if you mean more like past life regression or psychics, they can probably be helpful too..   they're in some phone books

Hello pleione,

how does this psychic attack look like? (Don't know if what I am telling you is comparable, but I had for quite a time panic flashes connected with the fear being ceased to exist after death, but was stupid enough not to go to a therapist)
It is easier to talk about stuff like this (it is a very personal matter for sure), if you tell what plagues you.
Don't misunderstand this, it is not to force you to answer, you decide if you want to tell about it or not.

regards,

pulsar

Hi all. This may be complementary to your question Plelone. I've just taken a look at your link, and it really set me thinking about my own history of fatigue problems.

Pardon my off loading all of this but I've struggled through almost 18 years of chronic fatigue which appeared out of almost nowhere at age 35, on the face of it caused by a thyroid problem (i had a thyroidectomy for a thyroid cancer in 2005) , caused by gut problems, caused by candida and caused by it's now looking like mercury poisoning.

I've tested positive for a high level of immune response to mercury. (am about to commence chelation therapy having had 8 amalgam tooth fillings removed)

I'm much better than I was, but still suffer from low energy and high blood pressure, and know that all is still not right as I almost never feel truly well.

While I'm not bad at the moment I've been very ill for periods of years at a time - secondary issues like neuritis, chronic sinus infections, back trouble, immune dysfunction, foggy brain, gout, migraines, food sensitivities and inappropriate long term prescription of antibitotics by a doctor have not helped either.

While the silver lining has been the triggering of a long search for meaning which almost immediately started me down the spiritual path (I doubt I'd have survived without Buddhism and meditation) it's basically destroyed the core years of my working life as every time I've tried to get something off the ground that requires commitment I've gotten ill. To the point where at this stage I'm a bit gun shy.

Being an engineer with a rationalist bias towards the physical (slowly being eroded by experience  ) it never crossed my mind that the cause could possibly be something like psychic or similar attack. Reading the article and others like it is a bit of an eye opener though - lots of the symptoms sound awfully familiar. Especially the talk of abrupt energy drops, minds effects and so on.

Presumably one would expect physical and psychic causes and effects to intertwine.

I've certainly been around people that fit the bill as regards being unconscious but very serious energy vampires, most notably  my parents (who as a result of my emotional openness and naivety and a seriously dysfunctional relationship were a huge struggle for many years - the start of the troubles more or less coincided with my moving back into the vicinity of the family home having been away for most of my life at school and work) and one that I worked with. Five minutes in their house is enough to drop my energy through the floor - nowadays I stay away as much as I responsibly can.

I've done lots of work on forgiveness and breaking ties with a spiritual healer that has helped, but there's maybe still a way to go. I've likewise managed to at least partially break an energy blockage in the solar plexus/3rd chakra area at a TMI Gateway programme last year - this was quite painful and produced an enormous emotional release.

I've found since that Kundalini meditation raises my energy and helps so much, but it's incredible the way I can go from being all fired up to being hardly able to drag myself around in a hour or so.

So what gives? Do any of you have any experience of this sort of thing? How can one establish if there's something going on? Any thoughts on fixes?

Thank you all....

Hi Pleione-
What kind of stuff is happening to you?

There are two general approaches - One way is a "fix it" approach which can be therapy, a pill, a spell, a charm against the night or whatever.

The other way is to embrace the whole area of experience so that you are at one with the problem, which more or less turns the attackers against themselves so they go away or alter their efforts from negative to positive interactions.

It sounds like you've tried the "fix it" part. Perhaps someone here can help with a more spiritual approach.

dave

Oh Vajra, Plieone, and Juditha!

You share such beautiful light with so  many other souls through this board, it's a shock to hear of
your troubles !  So many of the bright lights here have gone through such  extreme  darkness !

Lets all pray for and meditate on the idea of improved health for each other! Medicine and treatment too, and avoiding those whose interactions sicken us.

God Bless Us, Every One!

PUL,
Bets

Hi pleione86,

if you suspect a living person to be the source of a psychic attack, I would think about how I perceived this person, what impression this person made on me. I believe when someone actually can influence another through a psychic attack, the victim is somehow connected to the attacker, in what way ever: Appearing as powerful, scary, mighty, clever, dark, light, evil, whatever. Some persons can manage it, intently and even with training, or unconsciously, to be very impressive on others, but when the others think it through, and notice the means and process, how that works, the impressive power can diminish rapidly, then, so to say, much of the magic is gone.

Then I would think over in what relationship I am with this person. Am I fearing, am I devote, am I angry, am I dependant etc. Through this one can become able to most efficiently draw a line, break the connection to the attacker.

Then, there are all kinds of imaginative methods. That's not childish. When feeling psychicly attacked, imagination is just the means of choice. For example: To imagine to cut off a line of connection; to imagine a shield around to rebound any bad influences or protect from draining; to imagine to be like air for any attacks; to imagine to be made of light, flashing and blinding anything which wants to do you harm; imagine helpers who defend you.

Overall, fear, anger, and any strong emotional reaction will strengthen the connection to the source of the attack, and/or will make the attacks/the attacker seem more powerful. A cool attitude, deflecting and ignoring attacks will do best I think. After all, I believe no one has any power to do psychic attacks to someone else, but only assumed that one is truely believing this- that's the trick, but one has to learn and practice it.

Spooky