Hi Giannis. You rather hit the nail on the head there for me too.

While I've had some interesting experience that's both enabled opening and created a knowing (can't claim the cinerama of some here), we're generally left without independent verification except in cases where information comes back that can afterwards be verified in this consciousness.

Another issue for me is that many of the techniques involve visualisation, and are open to the supposition that it's not for real, just our imagination. The object/subject scientific paradigm tends to bias us to think this way.

I guess for me it just comes down to trust in my own process, and the fact some of this experience just has that indefinable sense of realism about it.

But it's almost like it's a test of faith, or if not faith at least of openness or ability to perceive beyond  common beliefs. Signs are that it's all set up that experience requires openness to possibility, and that requires at least minimal conditoned belief. If not active involvement in creation of whatever phenomenon it is we perceive.

The big question for me is not so much whether or not experience is for real. It's rather whether or not the sort of mind made conceptual framework we've built to describe how alternate realities work is likely to be true to the reality given the constraints of our space/time/cause/effect oriented tiny intellects.

I can't help thinking that maybe we get flashes, but not the whole story. There for example seems not to be a lot of experiential information (beyond that handed down by the various spiritual traditions) around on how our movement through the afterlife is actually controlled.

Or am I wrong, do some of you have direct communication on this issue?

One of the major factors in Bruce’s books is that he finally stopped questioning everything and accepted his experiences as valid.  For those of us who are physically impaired there is always going to be some way to doubt and question our own experience.  Ultimately if those experiences seem reasonably consistent and helpful we just waste energy by questioning them.

The difficulty for me, like Dave suggests, is that I need to relax enough so that my mind is open to these non-physical experiences.  I need to stop imposing my physical world and left brained expectations on what I experience and just let the experiences take their own course without all that questioning or attempts to force it into some preconceived and “acceptable” physical world form.  That openness, I suspect, is right brained and emotional and feeling based and I’ve kind of been brain washed into not trusting it.  But I’m working on it as I suspect most of us on Bruce’s board are.

Rob

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  As usual, great advice from Dave.