David9 said: ts a problem trying to understand the "Otherwhere" without me going again in full consciousness and seeing again for my self..Pity I wasn't a TMI graduate.Also we /I find it hard to understand this other energy form of life without interpreting it out of our Earthly paradigm.Like in everyday waking consciousness its almost impossible to imagine the Timeless a black void where time and the sense of time does not exist and never did.Yet when in it it seems awesome but perfectly knowable.
I will write about my two journey's to "Cosmic Grand Central" tomorrow.
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I will enjoy reading your cosmic grand central I'm sure David. you and I think along a similar vein so maybe I can share a little. I think its true we have to go again as you said and see for ourself. in regards to reading of material of similar content, I had to re-read Bruce's and Monroe's books before understanding what I'd missed, in their mapping. we are all mapping. I'm getting so much more out of Bruce's 5 books than I thought I could, and the funny thing is I thought I had understood it all the first time. not. so certainly, your experience may provide some insight for me or others as well.
hey, I never went to TMI either David! yet theres still hope for the likes of us!
a little suggestion, I'm a reader more than a participant in programs, and I learned how to concentrate. what I do if I don't understand a passage or image or words, I stare at it, at the words until it sinks in. maybe you might try that. see if it works. Its just amazing how just reading can help us to be exploring better, even in dreamstate.
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David9 said: AS Krishnamurti used to say "The Observer is the Observed"
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this my opinion, advanced metaphysics. think of the eye viewing the eye. impossible to imagine but thats what happens when "out there." I think because it shows us our connections, but as well, there are entities involved with us when we do this. guides are about, but do not always reveal they are there. they do at the right time.
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David9 said:
Therefore it may well be that whole Planet Earth is a projection from all of us and only sustains its existence as long as we need it.
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its a projection of mind with a capital M. if we all did not believe we were here, we might all disappear then. this is what is meant by the word Maya. Spiritualists call it the veil. ACIM calls it that everything is an illusion, to mean everything that is objective alludes to something else that decays in time; in a place called eternity, linear time is not and nothing will decay. the collective mind is mind with a small m, but is our c1 reality and can be powerful if we all join with same objective.
the idea that we all believed the world was flat once. that is small collective mind.
but it was true for us.
it does "look' like the world ends where the sun is setting, after all!
see u cannot judge anything around here.
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Dave:
That physical reality is just as much created by our beliefs and concepts as the non physical realms.Just that things seem to be more concrete and stable here.Probably because we have added the concept of time.
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yes, linear time is one thing, eternity or all time another, you've been there though. but to add to your thought, I call us humans frozen energy while in physical time/space. it's just a slowed down vibration due to gravity, and physics laws. we can speed up our vibes though, by preparing, cleansing, disapline, various methods and meditations which we do. then we can see Otherwhere much better as it's very close in vibration, a slight shift of attention, maybe like peripheral vision or intuitive glimpses, dreams, obes and such, all are tools. one wouldn't want to be enlightened too quickly David, we have to take it in small chunks.
when you find yourself out there, try to remember if you're talking to someone it is like their thoughts become your thoughts, the same with feelings.
I don't think we added time, so much as we were given time. we have to remember we wanted to be here.
I like to say we turned ourselves inside out when becoming physical. everything seems backwards here. for instance, here our bodies generally dictate our lives, if we feel a pain or illness, we could say the body is telling us what to think and is in charge of us.
on the other side, we are the ones who tell our bodies what to do, to heal, etc. we are in control on the other side according to what we believe. here it is a challenge to get in control. builds character I guess
I told u already didn't I, that I'm changing my hair color once I get home?
just a thought away hmmmm!!! purple. yea. that would be nice. nah, red maybe!
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