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tgecks

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Beyond Focus 27
Jul 15^th, 2007 at 4:49pm

Hey All you Fellow OBEers

I have spent a lot of time exploring what in Monroe-speak is Focus 23-24-25-26- and of course 27 expecially since doing Lifelines in May 2007. I have begun to meet a guide in 23 as I pass through and we do a "Quickie" retrieval although lately many of them are not as unchallenging as they used to seem.

Lately I have come to think of Focus 27 as an Advanced Belief System Territory, the "field beyond right and wrong" if you will. All of it I have explored so far seems conceived and maintained to facilitate our Earth Life Time-Space Illusion Merry-Go-Round of reincarnation. It's all really nice, but it is either about what we were or will be next here on Earth. There are those who stay there for a while and then "move on" apparently to their I-THEREs in the outer rings or beyond the Aperture.

A few years ago I was very depressed and did not want to be here at all, or come back here ever. It has been some road to walk, but that has healed, especially since my OBE work and A Course in Miracles. But as much as I am enjoying it now I am having a Happy Dream, I still do not want to keep coming back here over and over.

Frankly I am more interested in alternative(s) to reincarnation as it has been, at least. So I have begun to explore beyond Focus 27, counting myself up to 33/34 which is what Bob Monroe called The Gathering. It is/was/will be to "observe the possible birth of a new energy that will, his INSPEC continues, 'offer human consciousness a rare potential to emerge rapidly into A UNIFIED INTELLIGENT ENERGY SYSTEM that will range far beyond our time-space illusion, creating, constructing, teaching, as only a human-trained graduate energy is able to do.'"

That does not sound, and it does not feel like Focus 27 to me. I absolutely agree we have the unique opportunity here to perform retrievals of what is ultimately a fragment of our One Self, and have enjoyed doing them on an almost daily basis. In Lifelines, when we finished the retrieval we went to "our place" or explored 27, and though I have not been to Exploration 27, with the aid of Bruce's books, I have been able to find my way around and have explored.

I "see" other rebal orb energies "out" "there" and and I hoping this will create some interest and discsusion. Is it you out there?

The solution to The Dream is not within The Dream. We are not our bodies, not even a little, never have been. So-- have you been out there? What's next if you aren't just coming back for another attempt at it?

Can we undream the dream of separation? Can we uneat The Apple? Can we have more than just a happy dream?

Can we really seize this "rare potential to emerge rapidly into A UNIFIED INTELLIGENT ENERGY SYSTEM" that intelligences from all through time and space have gathered to watch?

Anyone interested?

Thomas

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Re: Beyond Focus 27
Reply #1 - Jul 16^th, 2007 at 10:56am

Greetings Thomas,

You are very fortunate that you were at the Gateways workshop and so have had a more intensive experience than many of us who have simply read some books at our own pace. As well, it sounds as though you have a gift for using the information and energies you gained there, as your daily OBEs /retrievals are way beyond what many of us currently accomplish. What I'm trying to say is, that my experience is more limited and so I'm not qualified to answer you from where you are at. But since no one else has yet made an attempt, I can respond to some parts of your questions/comments, just to get discussion started.....

First though, * Cheesy

Congratulations !! Cheesy

* on what you are doing and experiencing!

You said:----
'I "see" other rebal orb energies "out" "there"
and and I hoping this will create some interest
and discussion. Is it you out there?'

Me (B): From previous discussions here I've heard at least 6--7+ people here, myself included, say that we have experienced ourselves as orbs or points, on some scale anyway where we sense that we are spherical. Two of these people aren't currently active on these boards.
Perhaps if we got a thread with that 'Ourselves as Orbs' in the title they would find the discussion sooner. (My experience with it was limited however, maybe 2--3 times.)
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'The solution to The Dream is not within The Dream.
We are not our bodies, not even a little, never have been.
So-- have you been out there? What's next if you aren't
just coming back for another attempt at it?'

B: You are experiencing being more than a human form can tolerate and are ready to move on---that's great! I still think of myself as a spherical tourist, and one with some handicaps. While spherical I can't see except glimpses, as one example. So I assume I'm not ready for being continuously in that realm. And yet I'm taking up your time to answer, maybe just to point out that there are levels of ability in that state too, and you have already apparently moved up that ladder-- Wow!
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'Can we undream the dream of separation?
Can we uneat The Apple? Can we have more
than just a happy dream? '

Well, that's an important aspect of higher realms, but it may not be so unified. There are skills like bi-location, simultaneous communication, etc that may require more practice too. I had a mentor who passed on into a realm beyond reincarnation, after spending his last lifetimes working on these skills while still on earth. If we were to move into a PUL-induced non-separated state, would we be over-awed by it, handicapping ourselves by not having gained some other skills to go with it? Am I too cautious?
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'Can we really seize this "rare potential to emerge
rapidly into A UNIFIED INTELLIGENT ENERGY SYSTEM"
that intelligences from all through time and space
have gathered to watch?'

(I'm definitely not qualitified to comment as I don't know what it is they reportedly want to watch.)

I hope you get some more responses soon,
Bets

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Shakespeare

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Re: Beyond Focus 27
Reply #2 - Jul 16^th, 2007 at 1:16pm

A quick reply before I return to work.

My feeling about 27 is that between focus 3 and 27, human consciousness live and create its own dreams, its own realms. Beyond that, that's only speculation, consciousness can totally express itself. I hope be explore more of those realm as my exploration skill increases.

Just for fun, I like to see this process as recursion function in computer software. The function is called beyond focus 27, it digs data until it finds the smallest bit of information (in all focus level), and after, it go out of the hole by resembling all bits of informations it has until it come back were it was called, but with a complete set of valid information.

Geek stuff Tongue

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recoverer Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 5027 Gender:	Re: Beyond Focus 27 Reply #3 - Jul 16^th, 2007 at 8:19pm Hello tgecks: Don't be quick to conclude that you'll have to come to the physical World over and over again. The next time you see the guide in focus 23, you might ask him/her what he/she thinks of ACIM.
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Re: Beyond Focus 27
Reply #4 - Jul 16^th, 2007 at 9:16pm

Hi tgecks,

you can see F27 as a belief system, because you can see everything as a belief system; that's a philosophical decision. This will only stop when one is in a state of not distinguishing between here and there, me and them, because then there is no subject-object, therefore no difference between belief-truth.

Indeed, much of what I saw of F27 had to do with (re)incarnation. But I came along edges there which seem to be inhabited by people who will not go back for an earthly incarnation, but preparing to move on elsewhere. It are just my impressions, it was not in 3Dsurround, if you know what I mean.
I sometimes felt that in comparison the F21 and some regions in F23 and outer regions of F24-F26, F27 becomes more human-shaped again, while one could guess it should be less humanoid. Maybe it's just a stronger focusing energy there than in the other levels from F21 up. Although, to me it's always as if I had the choice how I perceive people, as humanoid or as spheres (in F27, and generally when meeting helpers). Sometimes to me communication is easier choosing the sphere-option because keeping and perceiving human shape is a bit de-focusing from the contents of the communication.

I have no HemiSync recordings of F34/35 (or was it F33/34?), so I don't know "where" I actually have been when after I intended to go there. However, what I found was different from F27. I found two places (which is interesting, as it matches with this double-name of the Focus Level), one was a sort of place where possibilities could be channeled down to become reality, white and light grey fluffy surrounding, no forms, forms were in a sort of excluded spots there, as if you look in a hole or a monitor, indicating that forms don't belong there. The other place was more the Gathering type. More solid, but very difficult to maintain visuals; objects which could be spaceships, but could be other things as well. Some crude communication like a being that was an entire planet-surface. Something like big soap-bubble-beings, and I think at least an aspect of my I-there (disk) I found there.
You think I-theres are located at the outer rings of the BSTs (F24-F26)? I wouldn't seek them there. I have found there some excentric heavens, some areas very close and in communication with F27, and then some people waiting for their last incarnation, if I have got it right, tall white people who appeared to be old.

So if you're not inclined to stay at F27- well then go beyond!

Spooky

"I'm going where the pavement turns to sand"&&Neil Young, "Thrasher"

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Re: Beyond Focus 27
Reply #5 - Jul 16^th, 2007 at 10:46pm

tgecks wrote on Jul 15^th, 2007 at 4:49pm:

Hey All you Fellow OBEers

The solution to The Dream is not within The Dream. We are not our bodies, not even a little, never have been. So-- have you been out there? What's next if you aren't just coming back for another attempt at it?
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I am hoping to see the Light ever more closely, and experience it ever more fully.
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Can we undream the dream of separation? Can we uneat The Apple? Can we have more than just a happy dream?
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Our potential is unlimited.

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Can we really seize this "rare potential to emerge rapidly into A UNIFIED INTELLIGENT ENERGY SYSTEM" that intelligences from all through time and space have gathered to watch?

Anyone interested?

Thomas

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YES.

love, blink

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george stone Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 857	Re: Beyond Focus 27 Reply #6 - Jul 16^th, 2007 at 11:24pm About these relms,does anybody know what they look like?
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