Greetings five,

Welcome to this board!
Regarding your comment about how these searches into afterlife conditions make us better persons, that was a hot topic a few months back. In our host Bruce Moen's books, you'll find the original impetus of this community--to experience and then explain afterlife conditions in a way that doesn't limit understanding to anyone, and to do so in a caring and considerate manner.

Many of us who came here  and experienced that kind concern from the 'vets' here have had our lives greatly improved by the experience! Emphasis on a loving system in the hereafter, offered by loving souls who have learned to visit that realm, is far more beneficial than the threats of damnation that many of us previously experienced. Like many, I can now meet my life in a more loving way, so that everyone around me is benefitting from this searching into the afterlife.

The size of this web community has grown tremendously in the last year and the topics discussed have broadened. Not everyone here has had a chance to read Moen's work, but I believe it is still the nucleus of what brings us together. Just as the Rosicrucians offerred you something you couldn't find elsewhere, so this site too has more than what is usually available.  I hope you get a chance to look through the many threads and find topics helpful to you too.

Bets

Thanks for your answers.
Maybe it is just that I came to this knowledge so long ago that it seems surely everyone must know this, and so I am dismayed when I find people who are only in later life waking up.

It wasn't just the Rosicrucians that got me started to this learning, they served to be the "high school & college prep" for me to seek further knowledge. As I was growing up I head various stories of family members seeing or communicating with those that had departed.  I was already primed you might say.  And of course I have had my own experiences.  At this time I am very wrapped up in this life, and I am actually looking forward to the next one. I feel like there is a lot of unfinished business that I must take care of.  There are so many things to learn and learn to do better.  I like this place.

We have recently had to put our old dog down, and my son has been asking question about after-life. Hmmm, I thought he & I had been thru all that years ago.  I want him to come here to see other people's stories.

Yes Recoverer, I too won't say that Monroe wasn't beyond F27. He just didn't label many of the "places" he was in that way. What is interesting is, many of the places Monroe was in seem to not fit into the TMI system, that's what Kepple does emphasize too, "where the heck was he?", and I as well often end up in a place Kepple calls "Focus 4" when I attempt to go beyond F27. This is an interesting thing to investigate, and maybe to ask TMI and/or the TMI related explorer groups about there opinions and experiences. It seems the way TMI has gone with their courses "X27" (containing F34/35) and "Starlines" is going in a different direction than Kepple (and RAM partially) went.

Spooky

wow..I need to take a nap after reading this whole thread..lol...love it though!
quote from Kepple I think:
The 4 areas of consciousness are NOT distinctly separate. They are intertwined immeasurably, and each area is associated with particular actions, explorations, and/or movements in consciousness; while being fully connected to, and interacting with, each of the other areas.
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now to introduce another consciousness/spiritual teacher name of Bill Cozzolini. hope I spelled his name right.
for the sake of simplicity, like Kepple, with the 4 levels, BC has seven.

Monroe has too many to remember easily, so I don't remember, and I may be one of your more rightbrained critters, or I might not know even whats in my checkbook.

The Kettle post I agree with on all points and he communicates well. the similarities are many when comparing BC, Kettle, Monroe, especially the part of the 4 levels will overlap in that they are not sharply defined layers, as a numbered layer will seem to suggest. BC will illustrate in his teachings and liken the consciousness layers as a spider web image. you would be the I am unit of consciousness in the middle of the web. you would be able to feel and pickup, whats going on, on the edge of your layer, as well the web strands closest to your center.

as an aside, not that it matters too much, but I believe level 33 was to my understanding where Monroe met up with aliens, or other life forms, and I am in the same belief or opinion, that aliens can do the star trek thing, of molecules reassembling into another dimension, because we are all basically energy under the microscope. but I'm not a science buff. I just know we can't be the only physical life form, and we need a good explanation how a ship can appear, then suddenly disappear, and the dimension slide is my best guess. also Monroe did go "home." we don't know if this was focus 27, but it was another planet. I specifically remember this part, because I remembered how the games they played at "home" no longer interested Monroe, and so it was no longer home with the same feelings of home. he had evolved beyond his home.

aunt Clair, that was interesting as well, there could very well be some commonalities in what you've given us.

the only commonality I personally can pick out to share with you is due to a direct obe experience of level five, which I don't think has much to do with focus levels as Monroe has taught, but which was personally given to me, which you gave as: 5:  Monadic- work with  guides , mahatma , chohans and archangels
-- Astral Hall of Learning – Spiritual King’s Chamber over Luxor.
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I had an obe where I was dead, but did not know I was dead until told I was dead.
I ended up viewing a level 4, then going to level 5, then briefly looking at 6, 7 seemed way out there and too far away from friends, so I came back to five where indeed, all of us were guides and directors of the shift in consciousness, working side by side, quite efficiently and we also sent guides to those who asked for them, then I can see also we could be on this level connected to Chohan, archangels and mahatma, if we consider these to be levels of consciousness. but I don't know about the spiritual king's chamber over Luxor, as that sounds like tarot card? you can explain it to me if you desire to. also level five I was told was the love ray, pink area, lots of service people and helpers, very good vibes, all cooperation and postive, non duality.

also, I don't want to cause anyone's brain to be overly fried as mine (just joking, really!)
but level 7 according to BC is Nirvana-like, you can stay as long as you want, but if you entertain a curiosity thought, perhaps about gaining another experience, watch out, life will answer your thought and the opportunity will happen and you begin again, not necessarily does it have to be Earth and theres no reason to think that we are not having fun here or there. its better to have an experience than to not have an experience because you turned into nothing...   yet! its ok to be nothing too.
now I think I have you all enlightened..hehehehe
love to all, and thanks Dude for posting Kepple's stuff, it was very good. I'm like Spooky, I had some of those experiences.
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LaffingRain wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2007 at 12:18am:

This is a place in Shamballah and one of the easiest to reach . It is historically known for mystic initiaion of live projectors .

The initiations attube the mystic with energy to lift their vibration to attain higher realms and develop greater clairvoyance to work with mahatma.

These  initiations have been described by Dr.Joshua David Stone ,Alice Bailey, Helena Blavatsky , Djwahl Kuhl , et al. Here is guided Meditation to get there . From this entrance Higher Planes can easily be accessed.

http://ca.msnusers.com/AuntClairsParlorSpiritualReadingRoom/yourwebpage2.msnw

Here is a short method ; http://ca.msnusers.com/AuntClairsParlorSpiritualReadingRoom/accessingtheashrams....

Laffingrain ,your experiences ,  sound as if you have gone past the beginning initiations ,perhaps in this life ,perhaps in a past life

I am glad to see the knowledge from various beliefs coming together
here.

In the Eastern religions, a word used to designate a level is bardo.
I don't have a list of those levels in front of me at the moment,
but you can look into it on Google, using keywords like
bardo, tibetan book dead, buddhism.

In the following post, Gordon Phinn, an adept, contacts the late John
Mack, the UFO abduction researcher from Harvard, and has extensive
conversation with him. Also, he visits what he calls focus 35,
which is where he says the ET aliens hang out. He has a significant
conversation with an entity who is a representative of the Greys,
about their agenda on the Earth.

I note in this, Gordons dislike of the Greys and the Reptilians,
and his view that the Greys should be allowed to become extinct.

I also note his seeming acceptance of the rebel angels as serving
some kind of function, I am not clear on what that is.
This is a very curious mix of rejection and acceptance.

I don't know what to think of some of Gordon's readings, but the
richness of detail is itelf enough to make them worth reading.

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/mindshift/phinnmack.html