Hi all,

I noticed last time I did not seem to be on the same frequency as everyone else until Alysia came to get me. Is this typical for first timers? I have the same problem when I "go out" on my own and it makes it hard to keep the connection strong, I fade out but can usually get right back. I spend so much energy trying to stay connected that it takes away from the experience. I don't have this problem when in "dream state" but my memory is not as strong so I usually use the "daydream" method, perhaps that is the imagination method. I have no idea what these states are really called I just call them that.

question 1, how do I make and keep a strong connection?

question 2, what is the difference between these two states (dreaming vs imagination), what are they called?

Thanks for all your help.   Love Stacy

Hi Stacy,

I can attempt an answer for your question #2 but that doesn't
mean I can explain how to 'get there.' 

I see dreams as being sent into your consciousness from 'beyond consciousness,' received perhaps from Guidance or one's own storehouse.

Imagination seems to me to be personally directed or imposed by one's own consciousness--- making images to solve a problem, entertain ourselves, whatever. 
Then what we learn here is that's not an end in itself, but is a doorway to more...

We use our imagination to get us to the crystal at RMI, (plus using those methods of breathing, setting intent, etc that you reminded us about.)
Then we hope for further contact, where like in dreams, the images are provided.
For those of us who bounce back out of the scene at this point, I think it's
just a 'startled reflex', that we can't believe we're really there,  and so we aren't. We have to learn to trust that it's not weird to meet up with other friendly souls minus all the physical props. Any trust takes awhile.

Maybe an extra step would help, a 'bridge' to those deeper sources at the PE, like imagining  a person standing in shadow or imagining people with their backs to us,  or imagining a bridge that connects us with them. I recall several descriptions of PEs where successful PEers have mentionned such images when they first arrive.

Alysia, help!     Where's chillipepperfleasguy when we need him?

Bets 

Dear Stacy,

I did read about you, as yourself and as a three year old, meeting your passed ‘friend.’ 
You are a super writer, Stacy, and like Alysia, I felt that the power of this love you showed us was overwhelming. After I read it, I just closed down for the night, thinking that nothing else could really matter until the impact of your story had eased up.To react to it I’m going to try to forget its emotional impact and will have to simplify it. Please don’t take offence, because I know its importance must be monumental---it certainly feels that way to me, just a reader !  IMHO, no way is this imagination, but is information that your Guidance is giving you now.
So we have you seeing yourself in childhood’s innocence and how that affects someone you’ve loved. It would help to know if child-you knew this man when you were a child or whether child-you is an abstraction of your innocence. But either way, the reality of your feelings comes from the solar plexus, where physical  needs/energies  are transformed into higher emotional ones.   
It says that you and he are in contact as souls but have been unsure of each other’s feelings, waiting for the right time to communicate on some issues, maybe misunderstandings or feelings that were in life blocked for some reason. Child-you, at an age that can communicate its needs directly, finally bursts forth and declares its frustrations. Whether these frustrations are professions of love or are complaints, only you can say, but since he is delighted, it must be the good stuff !  Child-you repeats her declarations, just to make sure he gets the point.  He does and confirms this by looking directly into your soul. With new understandings established, he and you walk together into areas of new-found trust.  Whee-eee! (pun?)

Your inability to overhear each word is not important--- It’s the feelings that result. With more experience at this, words will be clearer if needed. 
The dramatic imagery of the child bursting forth is important only to tell you she is you and where you’ve been keeping these feelings.

(     You realize I have no credentials for my opinions.)

I hope you'll tell us more.

Love, Bets

Bets,

Thanks for the boost of confidence in both for writing abilities, and that "no way is this imagination". It is so easy to wonder sometimes and that only slows my progress.

We met when we were both 15, (very embarassing beautiful story). We were deeply connected until a very, very bad day at age 18 (aprox. age he was while in the chair, he was a little older when he was under the tree, I am still uncovering datails). Not being able to take one more heartache, I left. I left everyone I knew and raised hell for about 3 1/2 yrs, purposely "sheading blood" upon my departure. Though I was unable to "box" these events right away,  I was able "box" the feelings.

Here is where the trouble started. 3 yr old me was in charge of "boxing away" traumas, some big, some small. She handed them over to 10 yr old me who stored them in an empty room in my head. This was a common practice of mine, often I was unaware but there were times when I did know. I didn't want to think about it, I just wanted to play. So I did.

I did return to "normal living" sort of and we kept in contact occasonally through the years and the connection was still so strong. He always wanted to know what happened but I did not know by this time. I didn't figure it out until much later that I had "boxed"  pieces of him in "my room" and to retrieve him would allow the flood gates to open. 10 yr old me was in charge of letting me know when it was safe enough to go into the room. By that time he had been in spirit for 6 yrs already. I felt it when he passed though I did not know at the time of the accident. It felt like someone ripped the breath out of my lungs, for a moment I thought I was dying. He made several undeniable "visits" to my house after his passing. He took me on a fabulous trip "kidnapped me" to the afterlife, I guessing here. I don't have much recall of the event but I know enought that it was him so I wasn't to scared. And he was there by my side talking to me after my "crash" after opening the "boxes". Oh yes, a big CRASH. He still did't know what the trouble was but he and my guides were franticly trying to comfort me.

I think 3 yr old me was the one to tell him because she had all the answers and it would have been very painful for me to go through it again. But he still needeed to know what happened. She did at one point lean in and tell him something sweet, but mostly I think she was telling him what I could not.  

You nailed it here Bets, "It says that you and he are in contact as souls but have been unsure of each other’s feelings, waiting for the right time to communicate on some issues, maybe misunderstandings or feelings that were in life blocked for some reason."
And here, "Child-you repeats her declarations, just to make sure he gets the point. He does and confirms this by looking directly into your soul. With new understandings established, he and you walk together into areas of new-found trust. Whee-eee! (pun?) "

And again here, "she is you and where you’ve been keeping these feelings."
Thank you, have helped me confirm some of my feelings here. There is a lot of healing going on right now...on both sides. It has not been easy for either of us. He keeps telling me "Don't be afraid of the pain, pleasure is on the other side". Sometimes I have remind him of the same.

Love, Stacy

I tried to keep the emotion and details to a minimum here only so I can get to the heart of the matter. I made a punny!

Caryn,

Thank you for your reply, I put value in your opion.

I did not use the "dream" method for this PE, I was just relaxing doing breathing ex. to calm down. I was planning a "trip" around 8pm but my guides took me when I was not expecting it. I think they were trying to make it easier for me because I was nervous and did not want to be. I was not asleep. I could for awhile, still hear the tv in the other room. I moved away like a slow moving missile, if that makes any sense. This was a new experience for me. I didn't feel like I had much control of the situation, mostly a spectator. Thank you for believing in me, I know it is not my imagination, you can only build up so much evidence before you realize that there is just not that much coincidence.

I would like to hear more about putting my Ego in charge of the situation, I don't quite grasp what you are saying. I havn't seen 3 yr old me since then, but I feel her and I think she is happy now. She intergrated into me a long time ago but I think she was holding on so she could relay the messages that I could not. I have another post from last night on page 5 I think of Sat 4 PE. It explains further the different Stacys and their roles in my life.

As far as draining energy, boy you nailed that one. Any ideas?

That is funny that you asked me to be honest about whether or not he is worthy. He let me down once, very painfuly, but only once and he was only 18, and it was a very difficult situation. Since then I see that I have tested him in this life and in his spirit life, probably more than I had a right to. Since that fateful day long ago he has been sted fast, never wavering love and support. I think he is worthy and I sure made him prove it. It would have been nice if I did not need all that confirmation, but apparently I did.

Also I do not quite follow what you mean by "You might be a bit surprised I am not encouraging you to pander the 3 yr old and follow your dream.  The thing is sometimes we follow this dream and it never materialises and we left with crumbs." Could you please clarify for me.

Here is what I think you might mean, but let me know please. You think that since we are working out our old issues he may now be free to move on to "whatever". If that turns out to be the case I would be able to let him go for his sake. Isn't that what a big part of love is?

Don't worry about hurting my feelings, over the years I have bocome quite strong, shifting it from a negative strength to a positive one. And besides I can feel the love and care you put into your words. The more opinions I have the more perspective I can achieve.

Thanks a bunch, Love Stacy

... and right all ready for this weekend's PE.  um where we going again 

lol .. okay focus because what we are (well me that is) attempting to achieve here is a conscious projection at the crystal and a conscious perceiving of the fellow party members.

I've been thinking its best not to say I will look like this and that because it will create preconceived ideas.  Let's go with the flow through conscious perception and see what comes up.

Happy travelling everyone.

actually Shirley when time slows down it gives us a chance to get our bearings again so I did notice that i had the urge this week to get out of town...lol...instead I just went and bought some mums for the house...

regarding those tricksters in the astral, I have learned a trick or two of my own. when you are exploring and if you should meet one (not everyone does meet tricksters) you simply stand still and become a mirror. you become the mirror and they cast their reflection unto you, if they look into the mirror and see not their reflection they run fast and far to find their survival, as there is nothing in you for them to feed on for sustenance.


Regarding the PE tomorrow I will go into meditation and ask if any of the participants I can serve in any way. Sometimes there is not. I make this ok with me. I may visualize the crystal as the energy available to all of us to amplify the truth of our being and connectedness. I will see only the good for all. I don't go to dark places or I will bring my flashlight if I do. I will be possibly not there in a grounded sense but in love we each can perceive each other. I will ask for the guides of the highest order.

May you all find inspiration of the highest order and release your worries.
love, alysia