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Jan 29th, 2007 at 11:46am
 
Greetings,

In another forum, posts were discussing the appearance of the Receiving Center for souls newly returned to the Afterlife.

Does anyone have images in mind of what other buildings might be near there?  For example where the library is in relation to the Receiving Center?

I don't recall if it was once Mair's description, or something I 'saw', but one part of the Park that comes to mind is that on the side of the Receiving Center that is opposite the sea/fog bank, is a long straight walk through the tree-shaded greens. Back this walk about sixty yards was a walk off to the right where a domed white building stood. That's as far back as I got, although I could see that the wide white path continued .

I realize it's probably not necessary that we agree on this, but it's also exciting when we do.  Cheesy

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Reply #1 - Jan 29th, 2007 at 1:16pm
 
Bets,

My main concern is that you recognize this complication.   However limited, BSTs also process their new arrivals and often believe they have a corner on spiritual knowledge.   I gather from my reading of Swedenborg that countless BSTs also have parks with receiving centers, libraries, etc.  Of course, you have Focus 27 in mind.   What is needed is the kind of detailed "geographical" description that might distinguish the Park in Focus 27 from other parks on other spirit planes.   At present the failure of astral adepts to provide the detailed "georgraphy" you solicit amounts to an argument AGAINST the reality of Focus 27.  On the other hand, there is the potential for impressive verifications if astral explorers independently confirm the same "geographical" layout.  Swedenborg's explorations refute the rationalization that the mental nature of astral realms renders such a "geographical" description impossible.  So, Bets, you pose an excellent question and much is at stake in the answer.

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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2007 at 1:16pm
 
Hi Bets,

My choice here is to simply list for you what you have requested from us and to wait and see what happens.  Just a couple of things for you:

I sat on a bench with another person in a "park" several times, spontaneously, during visitations in which I had also the impression of other people nearby who were not visible.

During one "visitation" I was inside some kind of "hospital/recovery" kind of place and there was a female attendant directing me.  I was not allowed to "see" the suicide victim I was seeking but was reassured and given a reasonably important piece of information.  The building was very large with huge windows in the lobby-type area I was in.  It felt very modern to me.  There have been other  retrieval/visitation experiences where I seemed to be in rooms with some kind of faintly medical-type feeling to them, such as a wheeling narrow bed one might find in a hospital.

In one retrieval I and the retrieved young man were in a small boat (small, the size of a canoe) and my passenger was dropped off in a "reception" room in a building located after crossing a foggy, watery expanse.  The "reception" room we arrived in seemed very small, tiny in fact.  I don't know the reason for that.

That's all I have for you right now.  I, too, am eagerly looking forward to comparing notes.  

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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2007 at 1:31pm
 
Greetings,

Many thanks for the guidance. I'll follow up on those suggestions.

The agreements on aspects of a reception area came on the thread "Retrieval of Ralph' under Retrievals Forum.  The main poster was Ricketime (sic) who is new here and thus not influenced so much by our discussions. About five of us, newbies and not, came to agreement from several different perspectives. Could you take a look at those, Berserk, and let me know what you think?

Blink, your fellow's destination does seem to vary, but you recognized it did not seem to be the standard place. So does that infer that neighboring BSTs could be along the same 'shore'? Did his condition when you retrieved him indicate why he might not be getting off at FL27?

I appreciate your input Smiley
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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2007 at 1:39pm
 
I don't actually know if the tiny reception area was standard or not but it seems to me that the fellow may have benefited from the cozier welcoming experience.  It seemed to be a young man involved in the hurricane the hit New Orleans and other areas of the south in the USA.  

I really can't speculate too much on that except to say that my experiences are spontaneous visions during meditations focusing on various types of visits.  I do not try to "pretend" or "imagine" much at all when I go do these things. That almost makes me feel that I'm trying too hard.  I know it is an element of Bruce's method, but I guess there is a part of me which constantly hopes for pure, spontaneous images to occur.

The windows at the large "hospital/recovery" place may look out over a pastoral area.  I remember that I was able to see a creek running there, but I can't be sure I was actually looking out the window or being shown a vision by the attendant, because the creek scene was specifically related to the visited person.  That's about all I can share about that one.

I hope to hear from others here.....

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Reply #5 - Jan 30th, 2007 at 6:27pm
 
Hey, Bets!  The only image I have is of greenery..trees, grass and other plants.  Well groomed, and white benches mostly.

Its time to get back to exploring more.. Smiley
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Reply #6 - Jan 30th, 2007 at 8:43pm
 
I had a woman to get hung up in the Reception area once - she said that it was a closed room with a desk at which there was a bell. After banging it a while she decided that it wouldn't help. I asked her if she was willing to dedicate the rest of her life to doing good for the world as well as herself. She said she was. Immediately "A door opened where I hadn't noticed it before." a young boy came in and led her out into the Upper Astral (the part of the spirit world that tends away from Earth and toward God).

More commonly I have people who simply relocate themselves into the Upper Astral, and occasionally who climb out of Lower Astral into the Upper by clambering over rocks, going through a cave, or whatever. The key seems to be personal orientation, not physical (or metaphysial) layout.

This leads me to speculate whether it might be more useful to look at the operations that are being handled in each area, as opposed to the way that our individual perception views things. Perhaps that would reduce the percentage of BSTs. It's fairly easy to create an image by sugesting that "this is how it is", but  not everyone is willing or even able, to use an arbitrarily created image of an abstract place.

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Reply #7 - Jan 31st, 2007 at 12:08am
 
Right on Dave,

That is exactly so, it being the operations and not the form that matters... the actual effect and practical result and not the belief or image hanging on to it.

Bless you for being here Dave

(I've got to help wash dishes now... i hope to talk to all of you soon)

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Reply #8 - Jan 31st, 2007 at 2:41pm
 
Hi betson, ricktimet here,

In reply to your posts about the layout of the park, which is in the sixth sphere, also tagged by Robert Monroe, Focus 27, which is the entrance to Paradise, and the highest sphere that we can ascend, until our vibration or soul condition allows us to asend to the seventh sphere, to prepare for leaving the spiritural kingdom, and entering the first celestial sphere, of the Kingdom of God the creator, or the source. The Celestial spheres lose numbers the higher you go, this is the start of what Bruce Moen referes to as the land of the angels.

With that said I will try now to give you a vision of the park and it's functions. Every soul that makes the transistion from what mortals call death, regardless of their religious conviction, atheist, saint or sinner, unless you soul condition is that of Mother Theresa, you we all leave the Earth and travel through a tunnel, and are met by a very bright spirit, some call their higher self, Jesus, Budduh, Mohammad, of God. This bright knows you better than you know yourself. As you meet this bright Spirit, you are in what some people call a fog or a mist, beyond this mist of fog lies The Park, Focus 27, Paradise. While in this for or mist you will recieve your life review, and judge yourself of all the wrong that you have done, and for all the good you have done. It is at this time, you are assigned a robe of color that matches your soul vibration or condition, that you will be wearing later on. From that point on you will move through the fog or mist, as moving over a great ocean, partailly covered by this fog. Once out of the fog , you will find yourself on grassy slopes over looking the vast areas of the park, and you will then be met by loved ones, and friends, that will take you to the glimmering white massive reception station, or center. All around the park are large buildings, such as a library, a hall of records, life review center, the energy and composition center, along with many others. New arrivals are taken by helpers, and or their loved one's, that is if their loved ones have been there awhile and have chosen to do thi type of work.

Behind the recption station you will find many grassy areas, along with gardens of every type of flower, and Japanese, Greek, and Roman influence. Also there are beautiful fountains, where the water flowing is a glittering explosion of energy. And for a while the new arrival enjoys all these splenders along wih the reunion of his loved ones. Also out in back of the reception station, or center, is a panthenon type area that is used to sing praise, and change that singing vibration into healing energy for those that arrive still in an unconscious state, upon their passing out of body. After you have had a blissfull time enjoying all that paradise can offer, anything that thought can bring, but also being a thought based place, it is also a place of substance, as you will soon see. For after a while you will be called away by a helper, and taken out, way behind the reception station, and be assigned your color of robe. Before you, you wil see a great many roads, in every color of the rainbow, that correspond to the color robe and your condition or vibration, some going up, some going down, that is when it gets dropped on you, that the place that you have just experienced was temporary, and does not corresond to you soul condition. not at this time in your spiritural evoloutionary path. This is what is called the Law of compensation, to cleanse the soul from cause and effect. Because while baptism, and repentece helps, all must suffer the never changing Law of Compesation, until the effects from the cause are eradicated. This is why Retrivals and Rescues are nessasary, for once these souls travel down these roads of color to the earth plane, and subterrain, areas,
they are then once again fitted with the Earth garments, and wonder hopplessly in the earth plane or BST areas of the astral worlds, our afterlife, because all the memories of the park are earased, and only the wicked memories remain to torment them, this is truly what hell is, fire brimestone, satan, and the devil are all man made, there were never fallen angels, or never was there a Lucifer, and those that worship him on Earth are in for a big awakening and let down. Besides of all the memories of wicked ways, some will find out are Hell enough. Also sphere Two-Five grow in beauty as well the higher you go up, and the other spheres also have such places as healing, and halls of learning, but not as vast as the sixth sphere, Focus 27.

I hope that in Earthly terms I have painted you a clear picture, but one must wittness this all for themself to fully comprehend the granduer and beauty of paradise and, the Horrors that exist in the Hells that I have wittnessed at this time.


Dimensiomally yours,
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Reply #9 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 11:23am
 
Thank you, everyone.  Smiley

Yes, I agree that the purposes of the area are far more important than the visuals.   Smiley  I'm a visual-type person tho and enjoy the views! In fact this little exercise in visualization is bringing alot of thoughts and considerations that are very helpful---Lead on!

For ex., your descriptions have triggered another memory related to the reception terraces. When I was a young art teacher I went to Europe to see "the real stuff.' One afternoon at Mont San Michel along the coast of France, a Voice started telling me where to go.  I wasn't putting much value to discarnate voices then but decided to go along with it; maybe it was an echo of a tour guide around the corner.  Wink
It directed me to a far terrace and then was quite specific about where I was to stand.' Oh, maybe it is a photographer I'm hearing through mental telepathy, and he wants me in (or out) of his shot,' I thought.
Then it got very specific and we got in an argument of sorts about imagining water to the horizon( the tide was out and sand was everywhere), imagining fog ('why on such a beautiful day?'), etc. It got all caught up in verb tenses-- this was, this will be,  this can remind you of..., and I didn't see the point to ruining a beautiful feeling that permeated that area, particularly back where he had me stand.
Now I believe that the heights of the terraces and some of the stairways were similiar to the reception areas we've been discussing, and that looking out to sea at that point was a mystical experience for many of the tourists there who seemed enraptured by it.

I now suspect that there are many, though maybe not enough for any Homesick souls, of these earthly material places that have some aspect of the Afterlife in their design. I am very grateful to their designers who looked into their own souls and listened to their Guidance, so that we may be reminded by these glimpses.

PUL
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Reply #10 - Feb 8th, 2007 at 2:01pm
 
ricktimet wrote on Jan 31st, 2007 at 2:41pm:
Hi betson, ricktimet here,

In reply to your posts about the layout of the park, which is in the sixth sphere, also tagged by Robert Monroe, Focus 27, which is the entrance to Paradise, and the highest sphere that we can ascend, until our vibration or soul condition allows us to asend to the seventh sphere, to prepare for leaving the spiritural kingdom, and entering the first celestial sphere, of the Kingdom of God the creator, or the source. The Celestial spheres lose numbers the higher you go, this is the start of what Bruce Moen referes to as the land of the angels.

With that said, I will try now to give you a vision of the park and it's functions. Every soul that makes the transistion from what mortals call death, regardless of their religious conviction, atheist, saint or sinner, unless you soul condition is that of Mother Theresa, you we all leave the Earth and travel through a tunnel, and are met by a very bright spirit, some call their higher self, Jesus, Budduh, Mohammad, or God. This bright spirit or light being(only visualized as such, because our soul perception can not adjust to such a high level of light vibration at this time) knows you better than you know yourself. As you meet this bright Spirit, you are in what some people call a fog or a mist, beyond this mist or fog lies The Park, Focus 27, Paradise. While in this fog or mist you will recieve your life review, and judge yourself of all the wrong that you have done, and for all the good you have done. It is at this time, you are assigned a robe of color that matches your soul vibration or condition, that you will be wearing later on. From that point on you will move through the fog or mist, as moving over a great ocean, partailly covered by this fog. Once out of the fog, you will find yourself on grassy slopes over looking the vast areas of the park, and you will then be met by loved ones, and friends, that will take you to the glimmering white massive reception station, or center. All around the park are large buildings, such as a library, a hall of records, life review center, the energy and composition center, along with many others. New arrivals are taken by helpers, and or their loved one's, that is if their loved ones have been there awhile and have chosen to do this type of work.

Behind the recption station you will find many grassy areas with white ornate and plain white benches, numerous paths of beauty, lined with trees, statutes, and crystals, along with gardens of every type of flower, and Japanese, Greek, and Roman influence. Also there are beautiful fountains, where the water flowing is a glittering explosion of energy. And for a while the new arrival enjoys all these splenders along wih the reunion of his loved ones. Also out in back of the reception station, or center, is a panthenon type area that is used to sing praise, and change that singing vibration into healing energy for those that arrive still in an unconscious state, upon their passing out of body. After you have had a blissfull time enjoying all that paradise can offer, anything that thought can bring, but also being a thought based place, it is also a place of substance, as you will soon see. For after a while you will be called away by a helper, and taken out, way behind the reception station, and and now wear your color of robe. Before you, you wil see a great many roads, in every color of the rainbow, that correspond to the color robe and your condition or vibration, some going up, some going down, that is when it gets dropped on you, that the place that you have just experienced was temporary, and does not corresond to you soul condition. not at this time in your spiritural evoloutionary path. This is what is called the Law of compensation, to cleanse the soul from cause and effect. Because while baptism, and repentece helps, all must suffer the never changing Law of Compesation, until the effects from the cause are eradicated. This is why Retrivals and Rescues are nessasary, for once these souls travel down these roads of color to the earth plane, and subterrain, areas,
they are then once again fitted with the Earth garments, and wonder hopplessly in the earth plane or BST areas of the astral worlds, of our afterlife, because all the memories of the park are earased, and only the wicked memories they retain, remain to torment them, this is truly what hell is, fire brimestone, satan, and the devil are all man made, and there were never any fallen angels, or never was there a Lucifer, and those that worship him on Earth are in for a big awakening and let down. Besides of all the memories of wicked ways, some will find out are Hell enough. without the so call personafied devil, or satan. (for if taken in therir right perspective and translaton, in Hebrew, Satatn means Accuser, and Devil in greek means, Slanderer. So you can see how our religions, over the centuries have glorfied these words,  and created personas out of these words, to fit their purpose of control, to be God fearing, which is the biggest untruth taught to humanity. God is only PUL. So to live the life given to us as mortals to it's fullest, we all must be God Loving. Also spheres Two-Five grow in beauty as well, the higher you go up, and the other spheres also have such places as healing, and halls of learning, but not as vast as the sixth sphere, Focus 27.

I hope that in Earthly terms I have painted you a clear picture, but one must wittness this all for themself to fully comprehend the granduer and beauty of paradise and, the Horrors that exist in the Hells that I have wittnessed at this time.


Dimensiomally yours,
Ricktimet

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