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DocM Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 2168	Re: Christianity should be banned!! Jan 27^th, 2007 at 6:36pm Alex, Please delete this thread. It serves no useful purpose. You may have issues with the way certain people/groups have interpreted religion. The teachings of Christ should not be banned. So this thread is not useful and may offend people. Doc
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Re: Christianity should be banned!!
Reply #1 - Jan 27^th, 2007 at 7:43pm

Alex,

Please delete this thread. It serves no useful purpose. You may have issues with the way certain people/groups have interpreted religion. The teachings of Christ should not be banned. So this thread is not useful and may offend people.

Doc
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I'm with him, Doc.
The currect national Christian revival has given us things like
Ronald Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2, and the current hopeless
Iraq war, not to mention insane warmongering JEWISH fundamentalism in Israel (encouraged by the American Christian
example!) which will likely completely destabilize the Middle East
and lead to a generalized Third World War. (Maybe if Americans
weren't so RELIGIOUS, they'd be trying to STOP this sh!t instead of
getting all goo-goo-eyed over the "Rapture" or whatever other
idiocy their pastors and priests have been spoon-feeding them...)
Would you like to see your great-grandchildren leaping around
bonfires heaped with radioactive wood, chanting "hooga-booga,
hooga-booga"? Then support American fundamentalism (or to
a (very slightly) lesser extent, Roman Catholicism...

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Re: Christianity should be banned!!
Reply #2 - Jan 27^th, 2007 at 8:33pm

I also second that, Chum. However, I don't know if religion is to blame. There are systems in place which are almost non-humanly run. They are outdated, antiquated governmental systems which need to be changed. The hatred of violence itself and unfairness itself is what we all have in our hearts as the basis of our fears.

Personally, I think that if someone wants to talk about the fear that they feel because of false teachings about what is sacred, they should be able to do so. Because a person has such strong feelings does not make that expression wrong. I think it is a great opening to talk about fear in general, and many of us have opinions on that fear to offer.

But the title is problematic in that it may be challenged or resented. It is important to note, and for that, thanks, Matthew.

love, blink

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Reply #3 - Jan 27^th, 2007 at 9:06pm

Sorry for offending anyone Doc in general.. It's just that most Christians I have met or Christian Preachers they preach about fearing God and what not about fire and brimstone.. I just wish the whole world would make just one religion and that would be the religion of LOVE that's all.. That's all you need.. No more labeling and no more bigotry! Cool

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Reply #4 - Jan 27^th, 2007 at 10:28pm

As a Christian, I'll wager that I'm as well read in New Age thought and the paranormal as anyone here. By contrast, few of the New Age groupies here have explored competing sides of afterlife issues. Alex's mindless bigotry is a nice cue for my next departure. Two more posts at most and I'll leave the site once again to the New Age Ghetto. I'm disappointed at the lack of critical engagement with my afterlife posts in any case.

Don

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DocM Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 2168	Re: Christianity should be banned!! Reply #5 - Jan 27^th, 2007 at 10:32pm Don, I thought that recent exchanges of late had been quite fruitful, and can't understand why you would leave this site. Anyone can post here, and one thread like this shouldn't scare you away. Matthew
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Reply #6 - Jan 28^th, 2007 at 3:21am

As a Christian, I'll wager that I'm as well read in New Age thought and the paranormal as anyone here. By contrast, few of the New Age groupies here have explored competing sides of afterlife issues. Alex's mindless bigotry is a nice cue for my next departure. Two more posts at most and I'll leave the site once again to the New Age Ghetto. I'm disappointed at the lack of critical engagement with my afterlife posts in any case.

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Don, Don, Don... *(sigh)*
Once again, here you go with your name-calling.
WHAT THE HELL is a "New Age Groupie"?
AlexWolf88 seems to be anything but... he's either
a Christian (albeit a struggling one) OR he is an
incipient atheist. Either way, I don't see crystal
balls, incense, or bean sprouts in his future just
yet.
I suppose you'd call me a New Age Groupie too.
However, I'm only interested in seeing how this
"afterlife and non-Newtonian phenomena" stuff
can be squared with modern SCIENTIFIC thought.
You'd have me throw that all to the winds, and
adopt a magical "God is outside nature, in the
SUPERNATURAL realm, and therefore there are things
which science can NEVER understand" sort of belief
system.
By the time you got done with me, I'd be wanting to
go hunt down witches I suppose... or would I be pestering
my local gunsmith to cast me some silver bullets maybe, to
deal with those pesky werewolves?
SO - just WHO'S the woo-woo magical thinker here, Don?
Is it AlexWolf88, who's turned off by "God the Torture Loony?"
Is is ME, who believes that modern science is a superior way
to understand Reality, than booga-booga magical superstition
is..?
Or is it YOU, Don... is it you???

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Re: Christianity should be banned!!
Reply #7 - Jan 28^th, 2007 at 7:38am

Berserk wrote on Jan 27^th, 2007 at 10:28pm:

As a Christian, I'll wager that I'm as well read in New Age thought and the paranormal as anyone here. By contrast, few of the New Age groupies here have explored competing sides of afterlife issues. Alex's mindless bigotry is a nice cue for my next departure. Two more posts at most and I'll leave the site once again to the New Age Ghetto. I'm disappointed at the lack of critical engagement with my afterlife posts in any case.

Don

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Good!! Go home Don. You have been trying for years to sway people on this site into
a flase doctrine...OK People..Go to Christian sites and question them?!! You'll be bounced
off and banned for life in minutes..This is what they are like..."If you are not with us, then
you are against us(evil)" is their horrid creed...World War One and Two, the two biggest
slaughter-house episodes in human history was christian nation against christian nation.
......Go to search and see that the vast majority of Germans were christians during these
periods....This is not to dismiss all the local civil wars and persecutions when
europeans and other christian countries killed, tortured, and jailed those who were of
another christian tradition(catholic/protestant/etc)..Now, this is not to mention those(millions) whose were of non-christian beliefs. Cortez come to mind...I've never heard
of tarot card readers /physics/channelers/ crystal ball gazers/ vegetarians/ numerologists/
original spiritual thinkers/ non-conformists/ humanists/ mediums/ etc, etc, starting a
conflict that killed, maimed, millions of inoccents men, women, and children.... G-Man

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Reply #8 - Jan 28^th, 2007 at 8:49am

Those of you angry with organized religion and how it has been subverted over the eons will glibly say "Ban Christianity!" or "Ban Judaism!" If you step back and think about it, this will not solve the problems of the world. The underlying message of christianity, Judaism, buddhism, is very different from the interpretation of large organizations of people. Wars will start whether you ban christianity or not. If you take JC's stories and parables, with few exceptions you are given a philosophy of love, turning the other cheek, and not casting the first stone. Would you wipe those words of wisdom off the globe? Burn the books?

Hitler's Germany moved toward a decidedly atheist/pagan religious path under him, and burned many books of knowledge and teaching.

I mentioned deleting this thread because it served no purpose. I still feel that way. You could title a thread in the off topic forum "reasons I don't like organized religion" or something like that. I agree with Blink that your opinions should be heard and expressed. I don't think this should happen though in a thread titled to offend people of any religion. That is where my tolerance for freedom of speech ends.

Matthew

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Reply #9 - Jan 28^th, 2007 at 12:41pm

People who are inclined to be hard-core fundamentalists hell-bent on a theocracy would be so regardless. I've heard a lot of pagans state that "A Fundie is a Fundie, even a pagan Fundie". Which is a little harder to do, with no one primary book to wave in people's faces, but some still try. Ban Christianity, wipe any mention of it from history, and people who need that sort of structure and "I'm right you're wrong" moral support will get it elsewhere. If all the religions of the book disappeared, someone would write another book (think Joseph Smith).

Folks that were raised up that way and don't "fit the mold" tend to leave the fold, others who need the structure go looking for it.

I understand the tendency to think "ban Christianity", since it's the religion that most of us who have been hassled have been hassled by, but it's just a tool, not really the cause of the problem. If we didn't have people insisting they were right because the Bible tells them so, we'd as likely have them waving the Book of Mormon or the Koran at us. I'll stick with the Bible-thumpers, at least I've read that one a couple of times and have some opportunity to argue semi-intelligently.

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Reply #10 - Jan 28^th, 2007 at 4:12pm

Please keep in mind, that imposing a wish upon somebody is one of the reasons that we see suffering and persecution. Observing my familie's Christian background, taking the "ban it" approach would feed energy to the arguement that "Satan has returned to drag us into hell" yet given the diversity of beliefs -- even in Christianity -- there are numeous other possibilities that could take place such as another millitant Cursade being fueled.

I currenty see the best way to handle the situation is to live by example and offer your tips free of charge as I would myself. If somebody asks how you are so happy, then share your possitive outlook and paradigm with them and tell them what ever you feel necessary give them absolute power over their selves. In other words, passively display a "higher value" without any judgement of anyone's character. Make the display interesting enough that people wish to learn from your own experience.

In addition, consider replacing the word "replace" with, "supplement or expand upon." It is good to recycle not just physical objects. Grin

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Reply #11 - Jan 28^th, 2007 at 4:33pm

I'm going to add my reply to this, though I never read the original thread.

1st Isn't it harsh to say that Christianity should be banned when ALL religions seem to have their good & bad points and good & bad followers. The problem with all religions is that the message recieved is dependant upon the person recieving it, if everyone was made from the same mold there wouldn't be a problem, but we are all different.

2nd it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to actually 'ban' anything, all you can do is disrupt it and drive it underground and hope that in the long term it dies out.

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Reply #12 - Jan 29^th, 2007 at 3:12am

Yo - Seems like a few people are experiencing the 'dark night of the spirit' here with their judgment on Christianity Wink

I think it is helpful to understand exactly what the Christ event did for humanity. Before Christ died on the Cross and gave up His Holy Ghost into the spiritual world (the realm of our spiritual world that is); when people went to sleep or when they died their spirits were divided into a thousand pieces (literally) - for there was no guided path or midnight sun to light the way home. At sleep people spent the entire time in the spirit world finding their fragments of spirit before they woke up, quite exhusting and terrifying I believe. When they died - they spent eons trying to find the various fragments of themselves - possibly to no avail ending up as one who bows down to numerous false idols.

Christ sacrificed His Etheric Body (for His is way more powerful then ours) so that when we today go to sleep or when we die and call upon His name we are at one within ourselves and this frees us to be whole in the spirit world.

Today, people may take this for granted but our spirits before the Christ event were like dust in the wind blown any which way. Christ offers His Light for anyone who asks for it in the Spirit world.

And for this you hate him without a cause?

Romans 10:11
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Let us be a peace with each other and together with the Spirit of Christ bring peace to the world for bringing peace to our world is beyond us human who cannot even sit at a table in peace without vanity and puff up ness.

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Reply #13 - Jan 29^th, 2007 at 6:34am

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I think it is helpful to understand exactly what the Christ event did for humanity. Before Christ died on the Cross and gave up His Holy Ghost into the spiritual world (the realm of our spiritual world that is); when people went to sleep or when they died their spirits were divided into a thousand pieces (literally) - for there was no guided path or midnight sun to light the way home. At sleep people spent the entire time in the spirit world finding their fragments of spirit before they woke up, quite exhusting and terrifying I believe. When they died - they spent eons trying to find the various fragments of themselves - possibly to no avail ending up as one who bows down to numerous false idols.

Can I ask where you've got this from???

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