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george stone
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Where did saddam go?
Dec 31st, 2006 at 6:38pm
 
On what leval do you think suddan go,one of the lower levals or where.anybody try to contact him?George
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Reply #1 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 6:41pm
 
I don't want to contact him. Hes was an angry man.
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Reply #2 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 7:04pm
 
There is substantial evidence that the Saddam which was captured and executed was not the real Saddam.  Expert facial analysists say that his apperance is so different that the only explanation was that it is someone else.  The reasons for this are more complex and introducing the ideas would take too long. However, even more proof is that Saddams wife visited him before the execution, and screamed.. that is not my husband! it looks like him but it is not him! where is my husband! and so on.  The authorities said... he has changed a lot since his capture. HA. Yea okay.
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Reply #3 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 7:13pm
 
I Am Dude wrote on Dec 31st, 2006 at 7:04pm:
There is substantial evidence that the Saddam which was captured and executed was not the real Saddam.  Expert facial analysists say that his apperance is so different that the only explanation was that it is someone else.  The reasons for this are more complex and introducing the ideas would take too long. However, even more proof is that Saddams wife visited him before the execution, and screamed.. that is not my husband! it looks like him but it is not him! where is my husband! and so on.  The authorities said... he has changed a lot since his capture. HA. Yea okay.


I dunno, Bush wanted him dead thats for sure.
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Reply #4 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 7:30pm
 
I'm interested in finding out a little something about this situation....something about these reports didn't set well with me when I read about it last night...I hadn't looked at any news in almost a week.  

It seems a little odd to me that he supposedly wrote a letter which asked the people of Iraq not to hate his capturers and that he felt that hate and anger keep people from thinking clearly....and yet he still went in a "defiant" mood to his own hanging.  

But, that doesn't really matter, I guess. What I wonder is, why are we still the same people who enjoy watching a public hanging?  So little has changed in this world. What is the difference between this and the videos of the beheadings which horrified so many?

We must make this a better place for our children.

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Reply #5 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 8:36pm
 
When Saddam and Usama both die, for real, they will first have to go through hell then limbo before they can start asking for forgiveness.  They will FEEL all the pain that they have caused throught the planet. They will see and know the sadness they have caused, not to just us human beings, but to the Mother Earth planet, also.  All those chemicals, all those bullets and bombs.  All those drugs.  Earth will also have Saddam and Usama review the damage they have bestowed.  All the human beings who have already died a horrible and unfulfilled death will haunt each one with such torture that it is too unimagainable for us mere humans to comprehend. The torture will be their punishment for the Hell they have caused to us here on Earth.  Only then will they be able to ask God for forgiveness.  And God will take his sweet time forgiving!!
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Reply #6 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 8:42pm
 
Hi, cat....I respectfully disagree. We can't know exactly what the afterlife IS for those who have caused pain to others.  We have all caused pain and suffering to others in our lives.  God is Love, and Love heals all things.

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Reply #7 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 9:44pm
 
There is substantial evidence that the Saddam which was captured and executed was not the real Saddam.  Expert facial analysists say that his apperance is so different that the only explanation was that it is someone else.  The reasons for this are more complex and introducing the ideas would take too long. However, even more proof is that Saddams wife visited him before the execution, and screamed.. that is not my husband! it looks like him but it is not him! where is my husband! and so on.  The authorities said... he has changed a lot since his capture. HA. Yea okay.
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Whoever it WAS that was hung, he (Saddam?) apparently bore himself
magnificently on the gallows. He showed a great deal of courage and
self-composure.
(Should I ever be executed, I hope I do as well..!)
This leads me to believe that yes indeed, it was Saddam who received his "suspended sentence" on Friday.

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Reply #8 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 9:50pm
 
Heres a report on it supporting my claims:

When a liar is clever and careful, he is convincing because he is plausible and covers all his tracks. However, the longer the lie is spun out, the more clues are left. The Bush regime has been neither clever, nor careful nor plausible in its disastrous foreign policy, which culminates in parading a "Saddam" before the cameras who is certainly not the real Saddam Hussein, ex-President of Iraq.

Then came the pictures of the hitherto clean-shaven, articulate, educated and proud Saddam Hussein, crawling out of a hole, disheveled, bearded and dirty, supposedly in December but with the date trees laden with mature fruits, which only takes place in August in that part of the world. Another strange occurrence.

The supposed Saddam was shown by an unconvincing Paul Bremer who declared "Ladies and Gentlemen, (pause) we got him!" The pause was telling, an unsaid "I am going to tell a lie". When the ex-President of Iraq's wife was taken to Qatar to see him, she burst out laughing and immediately said that this
was not her husband. Had the Americans fallen for their own trap, or were a small group of Americans fooling the others?

Curiously, the Saddam shown by the Americans has a long beard after capture and continues to wear an unruly beard now, whereas Saddam Hussein the president was always clean-shaven and with a moustache. Why the beard now? To hide the fact that he is not the real Saddam? To hide the jaw line?

Now, the Holy Grail is offered by Joe Vialls, who sent his article "Shaddam Shaddam's new Vaudeville Scam" to Pravda.Ru this morning. In this piece he points out that all photographers were banned from photographing "Saddam" in court for security reasons but then the CNN arrived in the person of
Christiane Amanpour, who immediately started shooting hundreds of metres of video footage, which was then transformed into stills.

Here was the mistake. As Mr. Vialls points out, the real Saddam Hussein had a fine set of teeth, completely even, in which the upper jaw closed over the lower (overbite). The figure paraded in court, as it is easy to see, has highly irregular lower teeth and a condition called "underbite", when the lower teeth close in front of the upper.

Touche. Dental records cannot lie. The set of teeth of the President of Iraq and the set of teeth of the man paraded before the cameras pretending to be Saddam Hussein are wholly and totally different.

The man they have in court is not the real Saddam Hussein. Yet another lie by this Bush administration is exposed. How much lower can this clique of criminals sink?
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Reply #9 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 5:25am
 
George, I tried to contact him.  I simply tried a "special visit" since I didn't want to assume that he needed a retrieval. I seemed to be in a nondescript building of some kind--nothing to identify except that I seemed to see the outside of it a little.  I don't think we were actually inside of it, but slightly outside the front door. 

It was very close and emotional experience. We hugged, and it was a very long hug, with a very strong exchange of empathy and words of understanding on my part.  I felt a strong and mutual grief.  It was pure empathy.  I simply told him how sorry I was, and I felt him leaving at the end...I don't know where...but, then, I often don't.

I'd love to hear from any others here who are so inclined to make the attempt...

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Reply #10 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 6:21am
 
Hi George this reminds me of the Nazi Soldier who asked this jewish lady for forgiveness,for his crimes against the jewish people,as they were both in the spirit world and she did forgive him and i feel this is because of the pure unconditional love that emanates in the spirit world.

Saddam is very guilty of the murder and cruelty he bestowed on the earth plain,but though we sometimes find it hard to forgive,The ultimate divine spirit our father God is all forgiving and i do beleive therte is a life review in the world of spirit ,but this is brought to the attention of the many things we have done on earth,but not for judgement but for the feeling of remorse for theses things ,which the love then starts to take over and the spirit can come to terms of what he or she has done and start to move on and progress in the love and light of the spirit world where God reigns supreme.

Love is the most powerful of all emotions,it was placed in our souls by God,who is the very light that shines from within us.

This earh plain is were we learn about hate violence pain and suffering,but through all this our love we feel inside helps us as learning spirit to overcome the dark shadows that enter our pathway of life,and when we grow really tired and have learned all that our spirit needed to know,we go home and take what we have learned with us,to continue to progress in the land of pure unconditinal love and light.

I feel this is what its all about,just my thoughts on the meaning of life and death.

When we are all over in the world of spirit ,i would like us all to sit together in this beautiful spirit garden and share the love and talk face to face around this big celestial table with celestial strawberries and cream.  wow  Roll Eyes

Love and God bless    Love Juditha
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Reply #11 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 2:28pm
 
This article from CNN caught my eye today. Apparently, this Saddam, whoever he was or was not, gave spontaneous hugs when leaving those he had grown to love, like any other human being....additionally, he watered weeds and fed birds with scraps from his own meals.

He was a man, like any other, who believed he was doing the right thing, in my own opinion.

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Saddam Hussein watered weeds in a jail garden and drank coffee while smoking cigars to keep his blood pressure down, a US army nurse who cared for him says.

In an interview with a US newspaper, Master Sgt Robert Ellis provided a rare glimpse into the last years of Saddam Hussein, who was executed on Saturday.

Sgt Ellis looked after the former Iraqi leader - whom they called 'Victor' - in 2004 and 2005 at a camp near Baghdad.

The prisoner rarely complained during his time in captivity, he said.

He added that he was under strict orders to do whatever necessary to keep Saddam alive.

"Saddam Hussein cannot die in US custody," he said a US colonel had told him.

'Coping skills'

Sgt Ellis, from St Louis, told the St Louis Post-Dispatch that Saddam Hussein was held in a six foot by eight foot (1.8m to 2.4m) cell with a cot, table, two plastic chairs and two wash basins.

  “I posed no threat. In fact, I was there to help him, and he respected that”

Robert Ellis


When he was allowed to go outside, Saddam Hussein saved bread scraps from his meals to feed to the birds, Sgt Ellis said.

The former leader also watered a patch of weeds.

"He said he was a farmer when he was young and he never forgot where he came from," Sgt Ellis said.

He said Saddam Hussein never gave him trouble and complained little.

"He had very good coping skills," Sgt Ellis said.

Saddam talked about when he used to read bedtime stories to his young children and recalled giving his daughter medicine for an upset stomach.

His sons Uday and Qusay were killed by US troops in 2003.

The former leader did not talk about dying and had no regrets about his regime, saying what he did was for Iraq.

Sgt Ellis said Saddam Hussein once asked him why the US had invaded when "the laws in Iraq were fair and the weapons inspectors didn't find anything".

Sgt Ellis, 56, checked on Saddam Hussein - or Victor as he was referred to in military code - twice a day.

"I posed no threat. In fact, I was there to help him, and he respected that," Sgt Ellis said.

When the nurse had to leave because his brother was dying, Saddam Hussein hugged him and said he would be his brother.

The former president, 69, was sentenced to death by an Iraqi court on 5 November over the killings of 148 Shias from the town of Dujail in the 1980s.




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Reply #12 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 3:14pm
 
I don't mean to be spending so much time on this thread but some very strange things are happening. I have a series of four videotapes from a series called "Waves" which are relaxation videos of various beaches in the world. They have been in a storage closet for a year outside of my apartment that I moved into last January.

I put in the top video on the stack.  I haven't watched these in a long long time. I can't remember how long. I was confused because it seemed like the tv was playing instead of the video. I rewound it. I began it again and, although most prerecorded videos have a lock which keeps this from happening, I had unwittingly set off the recorder at some time a long time ago. There was a television sitcom playing at the beginning when I rewound it.  I thought, there's a reason why this is happening.  I fast forwarded it.

A news report came on. It was a recording of the ABC news showing the surprise visit Bush made to Iraq at Thanksgiving several years ago. He flew out of Crawford, Texas in a surprise visit to the troops and made a speech.

I repeat: this video was UNINTENTIONALLY recorded. I would NEVER have tried to record that sitcom.

An ACCIDENT? No.

I live in Texas. I live in Austin, Texas, where Bush was governor years ago.

How odd it that? I am sitting here stunned watching Bush make that speech on a video I never intentionally recorded.  He just said (RIGHT NOW): The regime of Sadaam Hussein is gone forever. He is making promises.  He is talking about justice.

Tell me that there is no afterlife.  Tell me that there are no spirits.

There are. They are watching.  REAL LOVE HAS NO LIMITS.  ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

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Reply #13 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 9:50pm
 
Okay guys, one more little tidbit for you today....I was telling my friend about this "Saddam" experience today. As I was talking to him I was describing the part of the sitcom captured at the beginning of the video preceding the Bush news report I just described to you.

I was straining my memory to remember the lead actor in the sitcom, and I remembered that at that time the sitcom had gone through a crisis because John Ritter had suddenly died of a heart attack shortly after the premiere of the new show.  He was a comedic actor who had a very popular show years ago called "Three's Company" which played on sexual innuendos, really, a very silly show, and he had returned in a new role as a family man on this new comedy.

As I explained this to my friend he said that John Ritter's son was appearing on television and speaking about something at that very moment.

I looked up John Ritter on the web.  Here is a quote I was immediately led to read:
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Actress Suzanne Somers remembered her former "Three's Company" co-star as a man of "great joy" and said he was one of the finest physical comedy actors she had ever known

"The chemistry that people see on that show is the chemistry we had," Somers told CNN's Larry King in a phone interview. "I loved John Ritter. He was like playing ping-pong with a great player, he'd just bang the ball and you better be fast to get it. And he also had a great joy."
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I am startled by this day. Very strange indeed.

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Reply #14 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 10:03pm
 
Hello blink,  Smiley

You seem to be in the vortex of some powerful energy lately,  Shocked  with all these experiences happening to you! (I'm counting your recent posts on other threads as well.)
I'm wondering--- Is there a name for this phenomenon, maybe from one of the books that I should remember by Moen or Monroe or perhaps in Buddhism? If so, have other aspects of it been discussed?

Are you perhaps 'graduating to a new level of awareness and so you get a bunch of experiences thrown at you all at once?

I got off topic with that.  Huh Let's see---do you think you could have met Saddam in the AL as you recently did if you'd not had some of your other recent experiences?

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