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Yes, it is Mairlyn.  I feel as though my opinion is worth nothing, my thoughts are crap and perhaps its time to make an exit.

Right now, my pulse is pounding in my head and I just feel terrible.  I guess I'm just wrong, and should go on back out of here.

I really have things I would like to say, but what's the point?  This use to be a place to explore the afterlife and help people out of BST's and those who were stuck in them.  I can't deal with this anymore.  Biblical heaven is another BST.  I have helped to retrieve folks stuck there..

But, having been told that my thoughts/beliefs/experiences are wrong, over and over..is quite discouraging.

You're right, George.  I'm sorry for my part in it, though my words stand.  Not to you but to those who want to keep telling me they have the facts..

As to the OP..remembering who we are in the spirit world when we incarnate, could be quite cumbersome.  Although some of us do remember bits and pieces, and we are always seeking to learn more, to answer the "whys" of this life, I think carrying baggage from one life to the next would hinder growth in each successive life.

However, when we return to the spirit world, we will remember each life..and be able to do a comparison.

Consider though, if in a previous life we were not that good.  Maybe we did things based on ego, rather than love.  Perhaps we were a Hitler or Hussein type.  To carry that into the dualistic physical could drive a person insane..while their basic "personage", their soul/spirit/essence, would for the most part remain intact.

Or, on the hand, if we were quite happy in a previous life, with things generally easy and placid, yet in this life things were hard, sad and tumultuous..the temptation to cut short this one would be great.

So, in my personal opinion, we may get glimpses of what was..both in previous lifes and in our home in the astral..we won't know the whole picture on this side.  The bits we do get to know, are just enough to keep going.

Please don't leave Shirley. Your thoughts are very important!!!

I recently had a reading done and found out that a friend and I were mercenaries many, many years ago in what is now East Germany. We made quite a bit of money and even bought a castle that is still standing today. The point is that we killed for money. He has burned his karma off from that life in previous lives. Part of my being with an abusive spouse was helping to burn off the rest of my karma from that life.

So what I'm saying is that we've all done everything both good and bad.

I hope you didn't take offense at my saying not to start a war here Shirley. I didn't mean for you to shut up or anything like that. I know we all have our own beliefs. Perhaps this should be moved to the Off Topic section as anyone can say anything there. I was just trying to make a point of not arguing among ourselves. And for the record, my thoughts go along with yours Shirley. No one should ever have to suffer eternally. We all chose our lives before coming into the physical and Hitler chose his, the same as the rest of us. He is a soul too the same as us no matter how his life turned out. Hitler is a spark of God as we all are.

Much Love, Mairlyn

Dave, excellent thoughts.  Yes, it is difficult to see beyond our own belief systems..and when we find them to be somewhat fluid..that makes it a bit more of a struggle, I would think.

To be totally sure..I was there once.  It was great, and ignorance really is bliss..

Mairlyn..you never offend me, dear one.  You help me to get grounded again..and be rational, rather than emotional.  (though there is a time for emotional, just not irrational emotional..)

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This brought tears to my eyes..it resonated so well with what I believe..

Just as we each have chosen our lives, some are hard to understand.  We consider the child who dies young..why would they have chosen to do so?  Perhaps..to provide the opportunity to the one who chose to end their life..a lesson needing to be learned?

I find great comfort in knowing that I chose the initial path that my life has taken..rather than to give that power to some outside source that is directing each step..

Hi I do feel love and forgiveness,but i would like to ask a question and then i will drop the subject.

In all honesty for everyone on here,"Would you love and forgive someone who tortured and killed your child."
I know i wouldnt,no way
Love and God bless you all Juditha

I don't want anyone to leave the board in anger or by being chased away.  Certain comments are bound to stir up passions on both sides however.  If you read my last post, you can see that the quote that I started off with about Jewish people, would offend the sensibilities of many.  My post in reply was to set the record straight regarding something to which I had firsthand knowledge.  Prejudice and mistrust arise in general through passion and often misinformation.  Rather than invoke the peer moderator system, and have the offending comment removed, I chose to try to reply with information.  Other passions were inflamed, however I think we can all move on. 

To get back to George's initial post - George, I believe from all the evidence that when we pass on, there is a review process of some kind for our lives; a chance to make sense of things, and learn our lessons, and at last let go of the material world so that we can embrace love.  If we can't get past it, we may choose to come back - if we do, this is, I believe a decision made by free will, with guidance.  The idea that we could die, hurtle out into some cosmic plasma pool and then have our memories wiped without being involved, is not in general, supported by NDEs, mediums and the like.

Matthew

In all honesty, it would be hard to love and forgive someone who had killed my child. However, there is a great lesson that has just been played out in the physical world and that is the reaction of the Amish to the killer and his family of the girls he shot. They have forgiven him and love him. I think I can too. In all honesty, I feel I could too. Someday you will understand.

Love, Mairlyn

I like Karmikiss's obsrervation that God is big enough to provide all kinds of religions. I took a few hours off for my Grandson's 18th b'day party (what better ecxcuse to go to a favorite restaurant and have good food!) and on the way it occurred to me that God is in the unique situation of being all things to all people.

The background to this is very simple - God is infinite creativity. Thus at the same instant, by a little bit of shuffling matters around so that there is not conflict in the experiences of people like you and me, we can have a God that is Shiva the Hindu Creator-Destroyer, Domballa Wedo the black snake of heaven, Javeh who created the lineage of Abraham and Judaism and Islam, the wondeful red and green ropes of truth of the Sam, the 60 year cycle of the Dogon, the Terrible Ruler of Hell for those who need it, and the infinitely compassionate Father in Heaven of more common Western belief. God can, and does, manifest the Christ as Jesus-the-Man as well as Krishna the Avatar, and Buddha the compassionate, or Hoo Toy the jolly whose belly we rub in a Taoist temple.

To look at this from INSIDE any one of these belief systems tends to scramble the brain a teeny bit, but to look at the "Big Picture" (as well as we are able) allows us to accept the simile of the mountain with a vast number of roads leading to it across a barrn plain. Then as we mount, the paths merge and all their differences fall away until at the top we discover that by the miraculous structuring of our world, we have never found a contradiction to our own specific beliefs, and yet there is only a single path that leads into the light.

Yogis experience this is roughly four stages, which is actully all that I can talk about from experience. However, the discipline involved in soul retrievals is a form of Jnana yoga, so evryone in this forum has a rough idea of what this is all about. The first level is discovering tht there actually IS something beyond the everyday world. This is the most important step.

Next comes the work of getting into the spiritual activity - usually by meditation, but some of us fools used drugs (and had ample time to regret that choice! - I've been to enough self-created hells for the week, thank you). This leads into the caring work by which we work for the good of others, and slowly learn that we have two Bosses - The immediate Boss is the person for whom we are doing therapy, retrieval, regression or whatever - the Big Boss is God.

The next level is the level of realization that there are truly no contradictions, that everything expresses thesame pattern of Truth, and that there is ultimately only one Ultimate Truth, even though expressed in three billion ways (sarvastarka samadhi).

The last major step is to resolve everything for a few moments into a state where everything is understood as One, and that One is God, and as we wonder at this we are absorbed into an instant of utterly transcendent bliss (nirvastarka samadhi).  And that brings us back to the world again to do whatever we have elected for the benefit of others with the truly awesome responsibility to represent God in all we do.

To touch God in samadhi is like touching a drop of honey. Not only is it impossible to get rid of it, but in a moment the sweetness seems to spread itself everywhere, and we become crystallizations of its nature. We love because we can do no other. If anyone ever asks you what to do after enightenment, the basic answer seems to be "Love".

There are a few young and immature souls out there who SEEM really hard to love. But what we are actually referring to when we object is not the souls themselves - we object to what they have done, and often to what they are doing. The torturer in a secret prison camp is the same God-stuff as the victim. Thus, to love someone who rapes and pillages is never really the point. We love the innermost nature of that person because we see God who is worthy of all our love. As for the raping and pillaging, that's something we can do without. And as they experience that unpleasant fact, I feel regret for them, that they must learn what they have done, and far far worse than that, they are forced to learn to Whom they did it.

If God can tolerate it, Juditha, it seems appropriate for us to make an effort as well. But I definitely know where you're coming from! Evidently Marilyn already passed through that knothole. I recall being a warrior, raging and hating, and being literally blown to bits. Kinda changes one's attitude.

As another example, someone who has fewer typos differs not at all from someone who makes a lot, so I feel that I'm in good company. Stick around Shirley - anyone who can make us think is definitely worthwhile! And doubly so with this kind of topic. If we didn't love you, we wouldn't care what you say. Obviously, that isn't the case.

PUL
dave