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Oct 24th, 2006 at 1:29pm
 
Ikeep wondering if you have been treated badly all your life , if your reincarnated are you destined to suffer the same fate all over again because if that is so then i will definitley not come back to the earth plain ,its been a hard road ,so many twists and turns ,not good ones either ,sometimes i wonder how much more you have to endure before it all ends ,all the misery and fear and emotional pain ,i know there are people a lot worser off but when your going through it ,it feels like your the only one but through it all i,ve manged somehow to keep my head above water and that is because of my faith in god i know he is there for me when i need him
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Reply #1 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 5:21pm
 
Gentle Deanna-
God has allowed you to discover your true spiritual nature, as well as your contact to Godhead, through the unfortunately difficult path of suffering and endurance. This is definitely the heroic path.  It is typically chosen by people who have reason to be dissatisfied with a prior life in which they failed to attain awareness of God, and is rather like praying, "God: No matter what it takes, I ask to be enlightened, to have ultimate faith, to be one with You, and to be saved from the ills of the world." So, you have now passed through the "cosmic knothole" and found God. Additionally, your attitude indicates that you have not harbored great hatred of your tormentors, but instead have developed compassion and love. That suggests that you don't have to do it again. I salute the hero in you.
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Reply #2 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 5:24pm
 
Deanna..I feel the pain in your post.

I don't think if you reincarnated that you'd have a repeat of the same thing..unless you chose to do so.

I think we choose the harder, tougher roads in life to advance a bit faster.

Perhaps a look into why the bad and hurtful things are/have happened to you would be helpful?

I've had to do that too.  My life has been anything but easy.  My oldest child is deaf.  He's almost 26 now.  My middle child is bipolar and currently in jail. (he's 24)  My youngest is 21, has a 2yo girl (to me, the most beautiful child I've ever known).  But, my daughter has only recently kicked a meth habit that nearly cost us all that dear little girl.

My husband has multiple health issues, from heart problems/BP/ to diabetes.  I work a very physically demanding job.  I wake up at 4am and often do not go to bed until after 10pm.

However, through the last few years of exploration, I have learned that there is a plan in all of this..and nothing is set in stone.  If I feel frustrated, angry or sad..I have a choice: Remain in that state..or find the way out.

Its the old "make the best of the situation."  of.."If life hands you lemons, make lemonade."
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Reply #3 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 8:03pm
 
Thanks shirley i,m so sorry you have had to go through thins as well i do hope things get much better for you in the future thankyou love deanna god bless
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Reply #4 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 8:08pm
 
Hi dave thankyou for those beautiful words you wrote to me made me realise lots of things ,your a lovely kind person thankyou so much dave love and god bless deanna
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Reply #5 - Oct 24th, 2006 at 9:04pm
 
Dear Deanna,
I don't know what your situation is, but I do know it was chosen by you, before coming into the world.
You either had some karma to balance or wanted to experience this sort of role in life.
Either way, there's no reason for you to go through the same again in a future incarnation, as long as, you learn the lessons you intended to learn, and any karmic debt is cleared.

Peace,

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Reply #6 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 4:41am
 
Hi Deanna I have had a hurtful life,so much put down for being me,that i dont know how to be me anymore,which is why i have taken my picture off here,as i feel better with my little kitten,i feel i can be me if my kitten is there instead of me.

Thats why i go to the centre everyday,and yesterday the people who were there,i sat with them and we were saying we wanted to die,as Gods heaven is better,i could be me in Gods heaven Cry.I have so much fear of facing anyone,as i do not feel that i am worthy enough to sit and express my veiws face to face,i have so many inebitions about myself ,which you know Deanna,i often cry to God and ask him why i suffer inside so much sometimes.

My kitten is my wall that i hide behind,and my love i send to you shirley and i pray there will be light,joy and happiness around you and your children.i love you all on here.

But i know that God walks beside me,and gives me courage to face each day,i love you Deanna.

Love and God bless you all  Juditha
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Reply #7 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 6:05am
 
Juditha, while your kitten is cute, I miss looking at your lovely face.  You need not hide behind a wall, dear one!

Be who you  are, not what anyone else expects you to be!

I certainly understand being put down and made to feel less of a person by those around me.  But, in the end..that's all we have is who we are, inside.

I would love to just sit down with you face to face..and chat.  Both of you.  We've had our disagreements, true.  We just have different perceptions, and that's ok.

Come out from behind the wall..there is nothing to fear, but fear itself.  Even with its hardships, life can and is beatiful...and sacred.

Love and light and peace to you both..
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Reply #8 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 6:24am
 
Deanna and Juditha, as most will tell you, we've all been through the ringer here most of the souls on the path to higher learning will all have there story's to tell, I know thats why I began my search the pain has opened many doors for me. That would have gone unopened had it not been for my life path. I'm not saying I've enjoyed it one bit , but O how I've grown.

The key to all this is to really take a good long honest look at ourselves. To the both of you I feel you need to seek help from a healer, someone you both can connect with. I've used many modality's through my healing process, like Reiki, re birthing, breath release and affirmations. We are programed from birth with how we react to situations in our life, most of the programing has come from our parents and thats not to lay blame there , it just how it is. But we have choices in our lives ,we live in a free will zone after all. I used my free will to change how I viewed my life and I chose to release the pain I was born into , you can do the same thing. You just need to say to yourself I've had enough and take the steps to look for the right person to help guide you. If you ask your higher self or you can ask god if that feels more appropriate to you to guide you to the right healer for you then the right person will come into your life.Both of you are beautiful beings who have the ability to make changes in your lives.

As you both have such a strong connection to each other you may want to search out and find a coarse in Reiki. You'd find many souls that have the same interests as you do, its amazing how many people have an interest in this type of thing these days.Or you could buy the following book which I highly recommend Called YOU CAN HEAL YOUR LIFE, by Louise Hay,Louise was sexually abused as a child and when she became a Young woman she naturally repeated that abuse within the relationships she attracted . After much pain she then contracted ovarian cancer. The book explains how she beat her cancer not through the medical modality's as they told her she would be dead within three mouth, but through the methods I have mentioned above. Its one powerful book and it explains not only how we can change our thoughts but how we can move the energy trapped within our bodies, that continues to repeat the pain. Please both of you take the time to look into what I have suggested. I only  want whats best for you both and I cant begin to tell you how much these things changed my own life .

I send you both love and healing and I wish you both a speedy recovery form your pain.
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Reply #9 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 8:03am
 
Ah, the trials, burdens and hardships of life.  Deena, Juditha knowest God loves you for you speak His word with such honesty and love.  If it were not for these feelings of anguish we would not know our God.  If our life was fill of fun, carefree with no stress or sorrow would we think of God?  It is unfortunate that inner turmoil is the best way for us to grow ourselves for it touches our very marrow.   For the one who has Faith throughout these trials is greatly loved by God.  And yes as LightR_on says; positive thinking eases the hurt.

Shirley you have your fair share of trials too.  You are a strong women holding up a fort. May you and your family be comforted and may love ease your burdens.

They way I see it; Life on earth is a death to our souls.  Our souls are entombed in our bodies.  There is numerous literature on this sentiment one in particular;

Persephone; the earth opened and Hades snatches her down into the bowels of earth.  Zeus (her Father) sends Hermes to the 'underworld' to restore Persephone to life but she had eaten a pomegrante seed given to her by Hades and is locked into endless transitions between the world of the living and the world of the dead.  Hermes (Gods messenger) is sent again as her pleas were heard.  Persephone is restored however, resides in Summerland for six months of the year (summer) and resides in Hades for six months (winter). 

The story is quite dramatic but it shows that these writers understood what people felt.

But life in earth can be quite beautiful, thanks to nature and children and to look for good in everything is truthful.  But we know in our hearts it is not quite the same as Summerland although we are growing our very selves in the winter time.  And of course, that day.

Dave, you wrote a beautiful piece.  Love and friendship what would we do without it.

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Reply #10 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 9:36am
 
Hi Shirley, Light R and augoeidian Thanks so much for your words of knowledge and love and encouragement.God bless you all and i will put my picture back on soon. lots love Juditha.
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Reply #11 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 1:29pm
 
Hi shirley my oldest son john is autistic he is 21 yrs old he is still like a young boy i love him so much i worry about him a lot i pray to god often to cure him so he can have the life he is supposed to have .
hi augodien and light r on thankyou so much for your words of knowledge. love and god bless deanna
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Reply #12 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 2:12pm
 
I view my higher self/disc as one big loving family. When we create a new generation we don't find it necessary to kill off the members of a prior generation before doing so.  We are so close to each other, we don't believe that we can become closer by creating soul mates. We are all soul mates.

We've also found that our family extends way beyond our own little group. It expands to all of the discs that God has created. PUL sees no need for distinctions.

I believe we are completely free to love whoever we want. We don't have to find out if somebody is our soul mate first. Sometimes the echos of time can have an effect.
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Reply #13 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 2:48pm
 
Deanna:

I really believe you should pray to God and ask him for answer. Perhaps he'll send you a message or provide you with a dream. I believe he will set your heart at peace. I really doubt that it is intended that you'll have to go through numerous additional hard incarnations before you can learn to love him. It seems like you already do love him.

Some Eastern philosophies teach that people have to go through numerous incarnations before they are ready to give up the World. I really doubt that you'll be unhappy with heaven once you get there.
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Reply #14 - Oct 25th, 2006 at 2:51pm
 
By the way, I must've got my wires crossed. I read about soul mates somewhere, and posted about them here. Sorry about that.
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