Hi there Marilyn, just wanted to say sorry that i never got back to you via email. I had to discontinue my ISP service shortly after you emailed me, and then i started working like 60 plus hours a week. I had meant to get back to you, cause i figured Verizon would let me keep my email addy, but they didn't. Don't know if you remember said email, but all is well now, and thank you for emailing me then.
Anyways, on topic. The below is an overview i have formed from studying and synthesizing many different respected psychic and spiritual sources. Particularly linking Moen's, Cayce's, McKnight's, Monroe's info, yet with other sources contributing. Some (and the general synthesis) is from going within too, as i have for a long time been intensely curious about the human condition and why it is like it is.
It even contains elements from more structured belief systems like the Bible (gasp!).
Anyways, when the below talks about the "slow learner and stubborn souls who initially enacted the imbalance which eventually formed physical humanity", i am referring to the lost sparks that Bruce talks about in his 4th book. It's like these Souls don't know any better, because they were formed when the "experiment" was not optimal, and they lack a base of Love energy like many other Souls were created with after the first Spark returned. The first returned Spark, became the Co-Creator Soul of this Universe and many of the Souls within it. It became also a model and pattern, and entered into the Earth system as the prime Retriever of the stuck and lost Sparks.
Some of these lost Sparks went into other systems and wreaked havoc, literally destroyed their own planet and other planets. They are infinitely more dangerous than the stuck lost souls within the Earth, because they have a greater awareness of M-Band manipulation and they are somewhat more collective energies (which makes their m-band manipulation that much more powerful).
Anyways in the below, i also reference to Retriever Souls who were created with the express purpose of eventually bonding with the Creator's energy, but also with the more specific purpose of going out to Retrieve these original lost and stuck Souls.
I believe in the earlier periods of Earth, when things were even more imbalanced than they were now, many of the Retriever Souls and Rescue Groups were from more advanced and faster vibrating systems. In short many of the original Retriever Souls were advanced spiritually oriented E.T.'s from todays parlance. Yet, even they made mistakes, and made quite a few in relation to an evolving Humanity, though many also helped out quite a bit. All the while, not so positive groups were also directly visiting Earth and tampering in a more overt way with humanity. Eventually this was more or less stopped and some agreements made between the very advanced E.T.'s and the not so spiritually oriented ones.
Both have been involved in genetic programs with the Earth, both have had some memebers incarnated directly and a percentage of these became stuck as well, addicted to physical Earth and its exotic nature (as compared to nonphysical dimensions and the original Home of all Sparks, Source consciousness).
In a sense, there was a "fall", yet the Bible has a distorted version, and many have distorted the message even more.
With all that said, hope some of you enjoy my overview of the Human question. Loosh to me is PUL btw, but Monroe seemed to have really skewed the rote he got (and it might not have been all that pure to begin with) because of his earlier much more materialistic overview and belief systems.
Yeah, i see what you mean. I kind of have a multi perspective take on it which includes, but also contradicts your above reasoning. To really explain it and in a clear manner, i would have to go into one of those long, over winded philosophical book posts of mine. Don't worry, i won't though , i'll try to sum it up.
What we know as of "Humanity" and the human condition got created in a very unbalanced way, and it started off because so many Souls got stuck within the physical and the awareness of their real selves shut down more and more. Their focus became more and more narrow and self (as in the separated self) oriented. Those that started up and created this original condition of stuckness, could be said to be some of the more stubborn and slow learner souls. This eventually led to the manifestation of dense physical bodies, which are a reflection of Soul energies, and which so many souls became so attached to experiencing.
But there were many Soul who didn't get stuck, and looked on the situation with growing concern and empathy. There were various "Rescue" groups formed, and headed by the Creator Soul of this Universe. Many of these Retriever type souls entered into the Earth and into physical bodies to more directly try to help their stuck friends out, help to get em unstuck. Unfortunately, many of these Retriever souls succumbed to the immense pull and addictive nature of the Earth and of having physical bodies. More and more Souls who were originally Retrievers, got stuck more and more, but usually they never got quite as stuck as the souls they were originally trying to help out.
The Creator Soul itself, decided to enter into the situation to help out too, it never got stuck but instead of being born into physical bodies like other souls, in the beginning it just manifested a physical form to take and it would then act as a teacher and spiritual guide to those stuck. This wasn't working as good as it had originally hoped it would, so it decided to make the ultimate sacrifice and risk getting stuck itself (and thus experience suffering and sense of separation from Source). It started to incarnate like all the other stuck souls i.e. being born. It did lose some of its awareness, but it kept strong and largely kept to the ways of Source, and had a pattern in the Earth again as a teacher and spiritual guide but this time, it was more effectively helping out the stuck souls cause the C.S. (creator soul) now had a full awareness of the problem itself and so could teach and lead by example and in a more direct manner.
The other Retriever souls were and are strong, and they keep coming here not only to help out the lost souls, but also because they are somewhat addicted themselves and NOW need the conflict, suffering, friction, etc. of the Earth dimension to help themselves to get unstuck too.
So Earth is a place of many very stubborn, and extremely addicted Souls, and a place of some strong, intune, but also somewhat attached souls (but who are also trying to help out others at the same time of trying to get out themselves). Earth ranges from those that have the least light within self (self chosen), to those who have had the most light within self, and many varying shades inbetween (and all self chosen). So there are some very ambitious and fast learner souls here, but there are also many very stubborn and slow learners here who are severely addicted to the ELS (earth life system). After all, this place is just so unbelievably different than our Home and nonphysical dimensions.
Picture a Soul moving through different states of consciousness, exploring nonphysical places, then moving into space/time and then sees the Earth... "hmmm how exotic, me likey likey.....hey whoa, what's going on here?! &*%$, damn whirlpool is pulling me down!!! HELP!!!! MOMMY/DADDY HELP!!!..." much later on..."yeahhhhhhhh duuuddde...what's my name man? what am i really?... where did i come from? Oh yeah... mmmm pretty bright objects... selfishness, separation, sex, food, having "stuff", being born... yumm yumm but so ouchy ouchy so much... Is it worth it? HELL YEAH!!!! GIMMNE SOME MORE OF THAT! "
Yup, this pretty much sums up the human condition, until we finally get sick of it and move on to what we were originally supposed to do, become Co-Creators with Source of new Universes and Souls to experience them.
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