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not sure which Robert Monroe book it was, but heres something I remember. corrections to my memory or interpretor differences I welcome.  Monroe first started going out of body and thought he was maybe ill or going crazy. he began to get better at it and accept it, to me he was like emerging. at first he floundered with this new body. then he turned into the butterfly and introduced us to phasing; and I found his books because he wrote it down.
as Monroe in these beginning phases came upon new experiences he met his I/there, or his ID forgot what he called it, but appreciate someone who still has the book tell me. leastways he was very close to this other who took him here and there consistently. he grew somewhat dependent emotionally on his buddy. one day when Monroe got his bearings out there, his buddy just up and disappeared, which says to me Monroe was well on his way to being the teacher that he was becoming.
as concerning reincarnations it appears to be a cyclic thing. BobM. through a type of curiosity, perhaps we are all adventurous at heart, BobM began a cycle of lives on this planet which pulled him towards it (gravity?) to my new understanding of what time is, the cycle of past, present and future is all a simultaneous happening of your many lives; although I percieve that there are beings who have never incarnated here. although in C1 we are only aware of this single personality living a life, it could be true there is more than one you living another live, in another time dimension and that now is the time we can experience our other lives and those beings whom seem to be separate from us but are not, and we do this by meditating on that particular intention to know.
so BobM. saw himself becoming addicted in a way, to 3 dimensional physical living; each time, one wishes to be better, get it right, do it over, make amends, achieve something to be satisfied with. when this is achieved you will have a knowing that you have graduated from the cycle which repeats each time slightly differently until mastery is achieved. or should I say, humans get into habits, repeat patterns until they decide the buck stops here and they stop repeating the pattern, they move to a less restrictive patterns, spiriling upwards to the memories of who they really are.
and this is my opinion of BobM. that he has graduated from the cycle. he now has a choice whether he should come back or stay, but I do believe he retains his individuality in a place that feels good. he must feel good as people that inspire others to explore are giving themselves away to the general public and can become easily the brunt of insults if they are different. what I mean to say, is he loved. to write what he did is to give love in service.
when u are only expressing love no matter what the situation, you are a graduate of earth because you will find this the greatest challenge of all.
I saw BobM out there and he was unconditionally loving.

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Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2006 at 11:08pm
 
Hi alysia
I don't have these at the moment, but have them all on order along with lots of other books lol
I am looking forward to the day they all arrive! Cathy B
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Reply #2 - Oct 4th, 2006 at 12:37am
 
ok Smiley  tell me what u think after u read it if u will Smiley love, alysia
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Reply #3 - Oct 4th, 2006 at 9:59pm
 
Hi Alysia and all,

in Monroes first book he told about his initial doubts and fears concerning his health, because he had this OBEs, and he told about the three "locales" he discovered during his OBEs, locale1: Looks like our physical world, but with biases, and sometimes strange creatures. locale2: Other realities. locale3: A world with humans, similar to ours, but different society and technology.

In his second book he told about meeting his I/there, but at first he didn't know about this, he met regularly this "intelligent species" INSPEC, which later turned out to be one member of his I/there, and this member was his future self. I remember he told of times where he hadn't contact. When he realized that his helper, the "INSPEC" was himself, the relationship was obsolete, because through this realization he kinda merged with the INSPEC, he himself had become such shiny as he noticed it before at the INSPEC. He had made the step to meet his I/there which consisted of many of these INSPECs, and there was a database of all which he had experienced. Also, he met "BB" and "AA", "BB" was a friend from a former home world, and "AA" was the friend of "BB", they travelled together to the earth-life-system, and AA signed up for having an experience from "inside", as a human, and AA finally turned out to has been RAM before he went to earth. "Far Journeys" is a very twisted and complicated book- the more fascinating.

So Alysia, you see when you say "cyclic", according to Monroe it is cyclic in a way that isn't to comprehend with logic (at least not with my logic), there are these lifecycles and addiction to physical reality, and there is also future self or even selves that are helping those of themselves in the past.

From Monroes books I remember his final job was his "ultimate journey" to the "source"/the new place of his I/there, after he retrieved some souls and/or aspects of himself, but I remember also that he said something like "maybe one time", and that was relating to his visit of the earth of the year 3000+. Then his I/There or I/There cluster will wink out, meanwhile they gather their members. Watch out for the gathering signal in case you're from Monroes I/There Wink .

I like RAM too, and I feel like I'm allowed to call him "Bob".

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Reply #4 - Oct 4th, 2006 at 10:29pm
 
I wonder if BB and AA and Inspec were all disc members...but u say BB was a friend of AA? amazing the complexity of one human being. I think about holographics that we spin off these lives, these bits of ourselves living their own lives in another dimension besides the one I call waking reality. sometimes u have to stop thinking about it as its gnarly Huh  then sometimes it makes perfect sense, then it doesn't again. then one day comes and it makes better sense. I thank Monroe for the new words, like probe or perhaps Bruce coined that term? but they are the same disc I'm certain. I think of my new consciousness as a probe disecting mysteries, but only about myself as it pertains to the collective areas. it is so natural to explore and become "more." to be unfinished here and know its all been finished elsewhere, that is somehow a huge comfort and not a hindrance to my pov.
I met future self too. she was me. she exposed my inadeqecies very well but without condemnation. so I can relate to Bob. yes, he wouldn't mind we call him that! Wink
another term coined "limited self=C1, unlimited self=there; that relates to a holographic principle also as we spin our thoughts off, they may become like people. have you ever considered a thought to have volition? form? then I think again on holographics and how mind can project itself into a form. show up, wave hello and fade out and no telephone bill. far out!  Roll Eyes  too bad I fell asleep but my sister said I was there! I had been concentrating on showing up in form. I wonder about concentration. when we all concentrate together we can make miracles happen.

its going to be a lovely future..I can sense us marching into it...thank you so much spooky reminding us of Ultimate Journies which I will reread. Smiley
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Reply #5 - Oct 5th, 2006 at 12:43pm
 
Hi all; yes Bob's books are great.

Can't remember exactly which one Far Journey or Ultimate but in one of those Bob was taking about "LOOSH" and what he found about it, which left him quite perplex and confuse for a while.
Anyone ever give a thoughts about this Loosh, (humans energies being used t/for fuel) other dimemsions/gardeners....???
Don't know much about this but would love informations/comments if possible, anyone??
Not sure if i will answer everything, since i don't know much about it, but SURE will read the comments/informations.. Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Oct 5th, 2006 at 2:48pm
 
YES!! Romain, thanks for the reminder about loosh..doesn't it sound like something to get drunk on? Cheesy  what a word!  a joke is coming: Smiley theres this tag that says
"you shall sit unmoving until your sinews decay and pray without ceasing until you are enlightened..but first a little noosh..."  now if I just knew what a sinew is... Huh

I used to be bothered that I was merely a crop sharer producing loosh so that some alien could come harvest the crop and take it somewhere to feast on while all I got was beans for supper...
GIVE ME BACK MY LOOSH! he he he. I think I resolved that by the saying "u get what you give regarding love."  well loosh makes the world go around, anyone can figure that out and lovers are we all although we try our best to conceal it while chasing other dreams..now I have these other understandings I must reread Bob. we'll talk, ok? reading is so important. do u ever go into an altered state when you read Romain? thats when you know you're drinking from a fountain when you stare at a concept transfixed..not a thought in the ol' noodle but the wonder...

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Reply #7 - Oct 7th, 2006 at 11:14am
 
Hi HO--
Further discussion of Loosh can be found on a previous thread---

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1111966265

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Reply #8 - Oct 7th, 2006 at 2:33pm
 
Alysia, AA and Inspec are RAM.  AA from the past and Inspec is a future self of his.  As far as loosh goes, I've never worried about it nor will I ever worry about it. If it's true, it's true, if not, then it's not.

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Reply #9 - Oct 7th, 2006 at 5:56pm
 
very good mair. I'm not the worrying type either Smiley just like to engender conversation. who is BB? I vaguely remember. Spooky said BB was friend of AA. I guess it wouldn't matter if we are all one? Huh  well, really don't have to identify every body to get something from the book. guess I'll just have to read it again. as soon as I get it. are u still selling books Mair? bet yer not turning loose of this one! Wink
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Reply #10 - Oct 7th, 2006 at 6:46pm
 
I'm still selling on amazon.com but nothing like these. Wink And I never could figure out who BB was, just a friend of AA's.

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Not sure if i will answer everything, since i don't know much about it, but SURE will read the comments/informations.. Roll Eyes
With love, Romain
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Hi again Romain. was thinking about this subject again today. hope I was plugging into some energy info. I feel a ramble coming on!  Smiley  basically Ram picked up what he had to interpret in his book, like each of us will do the same thing and interpret slightly differently according to our experiences and thank god we are all diverse people as it makes the world interesting.  if loosh is love energy then I see no conflict as at first I did. I now think we are all here to express love as best we can as a goal to hold, or perhaps an affirmation at first, then a goal. I suppose we will spend a lot of time defining love or loosh because its our nature to define, box up, divide it, segmentalize it, ship it to the warehouse and store it. we are humans and love is the greatest mystery just until all the fight gets knocked out of us, then grace, which is love too enters into the desolate soul. this is my experience and have enjoyed the heck out of my journey even with a few punches beneath the belt here and there!
loosh, love propogates the species here and later shores up the soul on its way back home. I think Ram may have needed a new word, as love is a four letter word you know!  it has many meanings to it. loosh has no false meanings on it, yet, that is!
ha ha! just wait. its to an authors credit they even get noticed, so thanks Ram! just wait till I die, I'm going to shake his hand and ask, say Ram, how exactly did you come up with loosh word? Smiley

moving slightly to another thought..my guides remind me of a life review I did once;  if I can recall the conversation a bit:
guides: did u love well?
me: I could have done better.
guides: well, you have eternity if you want to love better. just go back.
me: my intentions were good but...
guides: thats all that really matters in the end. to discover what the intentions were and keep them untainted by the promise of gain for the self.
me: so I've heard from the grapevine. question please; how many lives do I have to plow thru to produce a crop of loosh?
guides: well, you have to look at each life closely to see if the furrows on your brow are deep enough for the seeds of loosh to nestle into. Loosh is your nature before u took on belief systems of myriad value.
me: baggage?
guides: you could see it that way. do u have a judgment there?
me: I guess not really in lieu of the gain in the end.
guides: and the gain is?
me: to be able to feel deeply both sorrow and joy I suppose. is it like Gibran said, you will laugh but not all your laughter, you will cry, but not all your tears?
guides: that's true. love/loosch has a way of making a pearl, from scuse us, waste material of the clam. it do put u thru your paces.
Me: thanks guys. this is my final run. I'll see what I can do to express more love or loosh, whatever...
Guides: well, never say never, ok? you have a way of changing your mind consistently.
me: true, but things are getting redundant down there. I don't think I'll change my mind this time about that.
guides: keep an open mind and an open heart or nothing new happens.
me: oh, thats right. you're going to have to help me with the laughter part.
guides: certainly, we are you, you are us, we are one; do u think we could desert what we love?
me: thats heartening to think.
guides: yes, no heavy heart stuff. lighten up. sleeping in the earth will yield wakefulness on the morrow and the harvest is nearly here. ...

hey, Romain, someday I'll meet you too on the other side too! will u be easy for me to find? Smiley  wear a funny hat or something, ok?
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Reply #12 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 6:57pm
 
Hey Romain and all,
I've just made a post on "loosh" at the Far Journeys page, it's more or less a summary of what RAM wrote.

Alysia and Mairlyn, who is BB? Read only when you like to know the end of the story without reading it again!!! :

BB came with his friend AA to the earth-life system, it was a sort of tourist-tour from a different system to our world. AA couldn't resist to make a trip down to physical earth, and then AA became addicted to the human experience and BB couldn't get him out again, and lost track of AA. Then RAM and BB met. As it then turned out, Monroe was AA! So he knew BB from their old home world.

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Reply #13 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 7:32pm
 
ok, lets see:
AA = Ram, adventures soul who forgets who he is and where he came from and gets caught up in earth life or addicted.

BB = guide, friend, the one who did not want to take a dive here but sort of hung out waiting to retrieve his friend.

Inspec = a future self of Ram, the one who managed to graduate from the earth and be free of the cycle.
Is this what Spooky and Mairlyn perceived? I am in agreement.
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Reply #14 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 7:59pm
 
Yes Alysia that's it, though with the inspec it's a bit more complicated, in short it's an entity of RAMs I/There (disk), he found out there are many inspecs of his I/There and in this case it was the future nonphysical RAM.

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Reply #15 - Oct 9th, 2006 at 9:22pm
 
Spooky, I remember that BB was a friend of AA, but didn't remember where he came from. I only read this book 3 times. LOL  I would have to say that Bruce's books are much easier to follow. Wink

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That's true Mairlyn. The first is the easiest, the second the hardest, almost like a maze, with all these connections and time-cycles and such, but I've found it adds to it's impressiveness, maybe the style mirrors a bit how different it can be dealing with these nonphysical world(s) and insights.

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Reply #17 - Oct 10th, 2006 at 12:19am
 
ok I'm following you Spooky.  Smiley  so Inspec stands for Intelligent Species.

species could be related to the word specialize. specialize could be related to the word individualization.

intelligence can be related to awareness. a unit of consciousness can be related to an individual. I believe from my a particular journey I took that when you stand as a naked spirit out there with no belief system, no karma, that you are just awareness of intelligent bearing. like attention. awareness standing at attention. hmm. I like that!

and its back to the I/there disc, and the wave of humanity which is one made up of many. Smiley
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Reply #18 - Oct 10th, 2006 at 11:00am
 
Ahhhh, now that make sense..thanks Spooky and all you gal.
Got to go a read your other post Spooky, Loosh at Far Journey tread.

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Spooky, actually I thought the first book was the hardest for me to understand. I bought the book in the early '90's, long before getting into all this. But it sort of jumped out at me too in the bookstore. I had a hard time getting through it and thought that I never wanted to go OBE with all the trouble RAM was having with it. Little did I know then that I'd end up going to TMI which he created. Wink

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LaffingRain wrote on Oct 10th, 2006 at 12:19am:
ok 
so Inspec stands for Intelligent Species.

species could be related to the word specialize. specialize could be related to the word individualization.

and its back to the I/there disc, and the wave of humanity which is one made up of many. Smiley


Inspec and relation to the I/there/disc...hum that's something to think about, never thought of it that way, in speaking with Bob esperiences with AA-BB friends.
Open up a complete different avenue. !!! a bell  is ringing..oh boy.

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Reply #21 - Oct 10th, 2006 at 10:09pm
 
Yes Romain, from Monroes third book it's quite clear, the inspec (which is Monroe after his life, giving himself hints then lol) is a member of Monroe's I/There, there are lots of inspecs in his I/There, and Bruce thinks what Monroe called I/There is the same he experienced as his "disc".
ring ring, you are enlightened now lol!

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Roll Eyes Yes enlightenment, such a nice word, like it, and the reason why we re-incarnate here in this ELS, we will make it. Wink

These books (RAM/Moen's) are books that we just cannot read only once..they are book that should be kept at close range, and a few others of course, as references and re-read when time comes, there're always something new or a different perspective as we learn more about the afterlife.
And sometimes it's just a few words from a different person experiences/understanding that open up a new opertunities.
I love it when those bells rings or light go on..lol

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Romain wrote on Oct 11th, 2006 at 12:11pm:
Roll Eyes Yes enlightenment, such a nice word, like it, and the reason why we re-incarnate here in this ELS, we will make it. Wink

These books (RAM/Moen's) are books that we just cannot read only once..they are book that should be kept at close range, and a few others of course, as references and re-read when time comes, there're always something new or a different perspective as we learn more about the afterlife.
And sometimes it's just a few words from a different person experiences/understanding that open up a new opertunities.
I love it when those bells rings or light go on..lol

Thanks, Romain


hey Romain, I didn't want to spill too many beans Grin but I feel the freedom to say what I think and feel these days and so watch out for those jelly beans! lol. I think we have a lot of enlightened folks on this forum and you and Mair are two of them to my pov. and me too plus others I won't mention here but I'm not excluding anyone to mention your names only. the way it seems to work is if I accept I am enlightened, I tend to view my neighbor that way and if they disagree that they are enlightened that is ok but what I might do with those who want to believe they are not enlightened is accept them where they are in their belief system and project to them the vision of perfection that I see in them that they don't bring to consciousness yet, but they are perfectly enlightened and just need that realization. this is my basic rendition of PUL I suppose Smiley  we have two threads now going on about what is enlightenment so must be a purpose for that! I've been thinking about what Dave and Spooky said about enlightenment as I also think about Monroe and Bruce's book on daily occurrence. I don't want to be a donkey with a carrot in front of its nose...that's what former ideas of enlightenment meant to me..always reaching for that which was just out of reach for one such as I. the star we reach for is at hand now for each and every one during this time of the shift in consciousness and we are at the forefront of the movement as well all over the world groups are cropping up and bonding for this shift action. we need only to reach critical mass and then stand back and view the world changes synchronizing at our individual paces, but never rushing towards what is going to happen anyway as more of us realize we are spiritual beings, not just bodies and genders and belief systems.

thank you Monroe, you were a hard read from the get go, yes, Mair, as I recall I would skip over many parts of his book saying to myself "where's the good part that I can understand?" lol. I wish I hadn't of sold my books! I feel I could understand better now to reread Monroe. It was in the 80's I read them and the Ultimate Journey in 2000. I suppose it is normal to not understand a book in its entirety but just know that your interest is peaked and words are so hard to work with. just ask me! I mean after dealing with words so much. these days I am finding rotes in a single word!  that's how much the expansion is occurring or the shift. a whole rote in a single word as my guide mentioned. it's true.

oh god I can hardly keep up! it feels like I was born yesterday and have so much to learn here. love, alysia
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Reply #25 - Oct 11th, 2006 at 7:42pm
 
Now Alysia..that's was quite a rote..or beans.. Grin
and names droping dear soul...tse...tse..bad girl bad girl..remember Donna Summer.. Grin

But coming back to inspects for a second or two here...

that got me thinking today..oh my god, here we go.
If we think of the world of the Aura or Auras and the universal energy field (UEF) or conciousness what ever you want to call it, your choice;

There we exist in more than one energy field or conciousness. Our higher bodies or higher auric frequencies, are of a higher order and are more connected to other's higher bodies (astral/etheric/buddist etc than are our physical bodies.

As our awareness progresses into higher frequencies and higher bodies, we become more and more connected until we are eventually one with the universe (enlightement).
So if we use this concept meaning also meditative experience, then, can be defined as an experience of raising our conciousness to a higher frequency so that it can then experience the reality of our higher bodies, our higher conciousness and the higher worlds we exist in. humm ..
So since our higher bodies experience higher vibrations/worlds..could it be; those could be also called/our  "INSPECTS"???
Mind bodgling isn't.. Cool
Maybe i'm completely out of it here on this Inspects,but it's a thought.

With love, Romain
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Re: Monroe's cycle
Reply #26 - Oct 11th, 2006 at 10:14pm
 
I agree Romain, we all must have these connections that Monroe spoke of as inspecs or intelligent species with form and body too I suppose. it goes along with my earlier study of the 7 bodies of man. we were talking on Linn's forum of the bodies. these teaching may be eastern, but I studied this when I was wet behind the ears and I still feel wet there but heres a brief run down of the 7 bodies and maybe Dave can help me out as he's so scientific and into numbers and stuff Smiley
1) physical body  2)  etheric body  3) emotional body(astral)   4) Causal body

theres 3 more and I'm thinking higher mental for one. maybe someone into esoterics can help me out.  since the nature of our being according to my belief system is a holographic beingness in a universe which constantly duplicates itself, you can see where my thought is going with this.
I started thinking this way when I studied nature. every bug, every animal, every human is into propagation or duplicating or begetting a son, etc. and so I came to believe that the nature of thought systems themselves are holographically spinning off rotes into the auric field and that thought is creative substance, but more than this, I started doing those self retrievals we talk about here and lo and behold my other selves were alive and waiting for me to retrieve them and integrate them into my now moment, into my heart and they would wander no more, if you get my drift.

retrievals may become the thing in the future, a common thing to do, a household name, a way to be not only what we were, but what we will become here on this earth. I don't know for sure, but if so, I'm all for it because it helped me so much to be a happier more well adjusted person in my personality.

so back to the intelligent species, the disc idea, perhaps we can go from the disc idea and make a wild jump into all humanity is a giant disc? and the reason we come here is #1 to become individualized units of consciousness for the sheer experience. thats all I could get out of my guides Smiley  when i asked why are we here if it's so grand on the other side? they said, in reference to my book I sweated over being as truthful as I could, they said the book is about one person's experiences; thats all.
and thats all anyones life is, those particular experiences in interaction with others.

slowly trying to get back to inspecs, I believe Bruce will call inspecs helpers, guides, as we can understand helpfulness and guidance better than the term inspec, don't u think? remember his disc mates and he couldn't see their faces? later on we get to see their faces or identify our disc mates..hey Romain, maybe we're all disc mates here, ok, see ya on the other side then!
after having lived this long and I'm still alive Smiley I think... Cheesy I want my message to be one thing if nothing else..so I'll leave you with this thought that no matter what anybody says or what your perception or interpretor is saying to you, it IS a benevolent universe if thats what we be creating to see.

holy cow hang unto your hat, we be shifting, all of us!
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